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Trying to find info on a 1995 football autograph set

AkbarCloneAkbarClone Posts: 2,476 ✭✭✭
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I occasionally see cards from the 1995 SP All-Pros insert set that are autographed and serial numbered (usually numbered to 500). Some sellers mention there is an Upper Deck hologram sticker on the back indicating authenticity.

Becket guides make no mention of an autographed parallel to that set--only the regular insert set (20 cards) and the "Gold" version parallel. Neither of which is autographed or serial numbered.

I've been looking around the internet for info or confirmation that this is a legit set. As noted, Beckett does not mention it, and the Upper Deck website checklists do not go back to 1995 anymore.

Whenever I find a mention of these cards on the web--it is usually a collector looking for one for their player collection, or a random dealer listing one for sale.

Does anyone know if this is a legit set and/or how they were distributed? I have thought about buying some--but don't want to waste money if these are bogus or fake auto cards.

I asked one seller who had one if he knew the background for the cards, and he said he had bought it as part of a large collection--so he could answer about that specific card or set.



Any help or knowledge would be appreciated.

I collect Vintage Cards, Commemorative Sets, and way too many vintage and modern player collections in Baseball (180 players), Football (175 players), and Basketball (87 players). Also have a Dallas Cowboy team collection.

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  • rexvosrexvos Posts: 3,313 ✭✭✭✭✭
    probaly an SP Authentic Buy Back auto. I know they did that in 2000.
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  • MacrosBMacrosB Posts: 525 ✭✭✭
    Being not not upon everything of the 90s up, what is an buy back auto?

    Jim
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  • ToroToro Posts: 1,515
    Likely a Buyback card inserted into later releases of Upper Deck product(typically SP Authentic). They are all hand numbered differently and usually came with a separate authenticity card but had matching holograms.
  • AkbarCloneAkbarClone Posts: 2,476 ✭✭✭
    Well, I went ahead and bought one--when it arrives, hopefully I can plug in the number on the hologram sticker somewhere at the Upper Deck site to get the proper identification/info for the card.

    Thanks for the replies.

    I collect Vintage Cards, Commemorative Sets, and way too many vintage and modern player collections in Baseball (180 players), Football (175 players), and Basketball (87 players). Also have a Dallas Cowboy team collection.
  • FabfrankFabfrank Posts: 2,312
    probaly an SP Authentic Buy Back auto. I know they did that in 2000.

    I believe that is exactly what it is. Basically Upper Deck bought their older cards on the market, thus the term "Buy/Back"(or maybe had some excess inventory??). To add value they had the cards autographed and numbered and than inserted them into backs. I don't believe that they did this to creat "Buy/Back" sets but rather to just have randomly inserted autograph cards.


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  • FabfrankFabfrank Posts: 2,312
    Just checked the Upper Deck website (WOW! It's practically impossible to find checklists on older products), but I found out that the 2000 SP Authentic football Buy/Back card set had 101 cards. Unfortunately, it doesn't offer a checklist of which cards are part of the Buy/Back. I know I've seen cards from multiple SP products from prior years. I would suggest checking under Beckett to see if they have a checklist for this.
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  • AkbarCloneAkbarClone Posts: 2,476 ✭✭✭
    I went to Beckett checklists and found 3 SP Authentic Buy Backs sets listed with checklists.

    1999 had 85 cards listed
    2000 had 105 cards listed
    2003 had 9 cards listed.

    The card I purchased was not on any of these checklists--but I am thinking that the Beckett lists are either incomplete, or have a few errors--I have discovered some of their errors in the past.

    Based on the descriptions of these Buy Back sets, it sounds exactly like the card I bought (1990's Upper Deck product card autographed with Hologram sticker on back, and hand serial-numbered on front).

    The card I bought was a Michael Irvin autograph numbered to 500--according to Beckett checklists, he was not included in the Buy Back Auto inserts for any of the years they cataloged.

    I either bought a fake or an as yet uncatalogued card.




    I collect Vintage Cards, Commemorative Sets, and way too many vintage and modern player collections in Baseball (180 players), Football (175 players), and Basketball (87 players). Also have a Dallas Cowboy team collection.
  • FabfrankFabfrank Posts: 2,312
    The only other thing I can think of is that the card was not included in any product and was instead created to be sold through the Upper Deck store.
    Baseball is my Pastime, Football is my Passion
  • CopperJJCopperJJ Posts: 587 ✭✭✭
    Her is the checklist for the 2000 SP Authentic buybacks. I don't see your card on there. This checklist is found in the PSA set registry.

    Set Composition

    Issue Weight
    T.AIKMAN 94SP/55 1.00
    T.AIKMAN 98SPA/65 1.00
    T.AIKMAN 99SPA/385 1.00
    M.ALSTOTT 98SPA/204 1.00
    M.ALSTOTT 99SPA/400 1.00
    J.ANDERSON 97SPA 1.00
    J.ANDERSON 98SPA/133 1.00
    J.ANDERSON 99SPA/584 1.00
    C.BAILEY 99SPARB/426 1.00
    C.BATCH 99SPA/285 1.00
    C.BATCH 99SPANFL/354 1.00
    D.BLEDSOE 94SP/50 1.00
    D.BLEDSOE 96SP/21 1.00
    D.BLEDSOE 95SP/74 1.00
    D.BLEDSOE 99SPA/156 1.00
    T.BROWN 93SP/36 1.00
    T.BROWN 94SP/302 1.00
    T.BROWN 95SP/123 1.00
    T.BROWN 96SP/24 1.00
    T.BROWN 97SPA/6 1.00
    T.BROWN 98SPA/121 1.00
    T.BROWN 99SPA/464 1.00
    I.BRUCE 95SP/217 1.00
    I.BRUCE 96SP/33 1.00
    I.BRUCE 97SPA/16 1.00
    I.BRUCE 98SPA/147 1.00
    I.BRUCE 99SPA/555 1.00
    M.BRUNELL 96SP/46 1.00
    M.BRUNELL 97SPA/11 1.00
    M.BRUNELL 99SPA/620 1.00
    C.CARTER 99SPA/300 1.00
    C.CARTER 00SPA/180 1.00
    C.CHANDLER 94SP/35 1.00
    C.CHANDLER 95SP/361 1.00
    C.CHANDLER 96SP/18 1.00
    C.CHANDLER 97SPA/6 1.00
    C.CHANDLER 99SPA/595 1.00
    W.CHREBET 99SPA/267 1.00
    K.COLLINS 95SP/114 1.00
    K.COLLINS 96SP/32 1.00
    K.COLLINS 98SPA/202 1.00
    T.COUCH 99SPARB/400 1.00
    T.COUCH 99SPANFL/251 1.00
    T.DAVIS 99SPA/237 1.00
    T.DAVIS 97SPA/3 1.00
    T.DAVIS 98SPA/43 1.00
    T.DILFER 96SP/12 1.00
    T.DILFER 98SPA/65 1.00
    T.DILFER 99SPA/288 1.00
    K.FAULK 99SPARB/394 1.00
    M.FAULK 95SP/38 1.00
    M.FAULK 96SP/25 1.00
    M.FAULK 98SPA/65 1.00
    D.FLUTIE 99SPA/293 1.00
    D.FLUTIE 99SPAA/395 1.00
    A.FREEMAN 97SPA/10 1.00
    A.FREEMAN 98SPA/137 1.00
    A.FREEMAN 99SPA/507 1.00
    J.GALLOWAY 95SP/1 1.00
    J.GALLOWAY 96SP/123 1.00
    J.GALLOWAY 98SPA/200 1.00
    J.GALLOWAY 99SPA/273 1.00
    J.GALLOWAY 99SPAS/415 1.00
    E.GEORGE 97SPA/7 1.00
    E.GEORGE 98SPA/121 1.00
    E.GEORGE 99SPA/155 1.00
    T.HOLT 99SPARB/400 1.00
    B.JOHNSON 99SPA/381 1.00
    KY.JOHNSON 97SPA/5 1.00
    KY.JOHNSON 98SPA/102 1.00
    KY.JOHNSON 99SPA/310 1.00
    J.KITNA 99SPA/240 1.00
    J.KITNA 99SPANC/396 1.00
    D.LEVENS 98SPA/196 1.00
    D.LEVENS 99SPA/620 1.00
    P.MANNING 99SPA/131 1.00
    H.MOORE 94SP/333 1.00
    H.MOORE 96SP/221 1.00
    H.MOORE 99SPA/270 1.00
    E.MOULDS 99SPA/291 1.00
    R.MOSS 99SPA/50 1.00
    T.OWENS 99SPA/450 1.00
    T.OWENS 99SPANC/282 1.00
    J.PLUMMER 99SPA/280 1.00
    J.PLUMMER 99SPASUP/165 1.00
    S.SHARPE 94SP/77 1.00
    S.SHARPE 95SP/281 1.00
    S.SHARPE 96SP/62 1.00
    S.SHARPE 97SPA/9 1.00
    S.SHARPE 99SPA/554 1.00
    AK.SMITH 99SPARB/417 1.00
    K.STEWART 96SP/67 1.00
    K.STEWART 98SPA/169 1.00
    K.STEWART 99SPA/600 1.00
    V.TESTEVERDE 99SPA/290 1.00
    R.WATTERS 93SP/8 1.00
    R.WATTERS 94SP/45 1.00
    R.WATTERS 96SP/39 1.00
    R.WATTERS 98SPA/148 1.00
    R.WATTERS 99SPA/430 1.00
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  • AkbarCloneAkbarClone Posts: 2,476 ✭✭✭
    Hi Jeff,

    Thanks for the list. I had checked it and several other Upper Deck related Buy Back sets checklisted on Beckett. No dice on Michael Irvin autos.

    I received the card and logged into the Upper Deck site to plug in the hologram number--No Dice there either. Got a message that Items produced before 2002 are not listed.

    So, I have sent an email to Upper Deck to check authenticity on the auto--will see how long it takes for a reply (if there is a reply).

    Heard Garrard was back in practice today--hope he does well and keeps his starting job--I still collect his cards.

    Take Care,
    James
    I collect Vintage Cards, Commemorative Sets, and way too many vintage and modern player collections in Baseball (180 players), Football (175 players), and Basketball (87 players). Also have a Dallas Cowboy team collection.
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