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Will the price of gold one day be higher than the Dow Jones Industrial Average?

stevekstevek Posts: 28,966 ✭✭✭✭✭
I was just wondering? image

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  • Yes.
  • DoubleEagle59DoubleEagle59 Posts: 8,307 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Of course....no brainer...slam dunk guaranteed!!
    "Gold is money, and nothing else" (JP Morgan, 1912)

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  • pf70collectorpf70collector Posts: 6,641 ✭✭✭
    Selling stock(paper) to buy physical maybe.
  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,660 ✭✭✭✭✭
    No, never ever ever, not a chance.

    Liberty: Parent of Science & Industry

  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 28,307 ✭✭✭✭✭
    you never know. it just might
  • derrybderryb Posts: 36,793 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>No, never ever ever, not a chance. >>



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    "Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey

  • jmski52jmski52 Posts: 22,822 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I honestly don't know. I have to assume that the ship of state will right itself before the dollar gets to that level. I give it 25% odds or so.
    Q: Are You Printing Money? Bernanke: Not Literally

    I knew it would happen.
  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,303 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>No, never ever ever, not a chance. >>



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    derryb's chart shows a perfect Edwards and McGee broadening top pattern over decades. The price objective after that upper line is touched for the 3rd time is often
    the bottom line, esp. once things start free-falling. And things are certainly already headed in that direction. I'd put the odds at no worse than 50-50. We could end
    up at 2-3 or even 0.5 to 1.0. Since Sinclair states that around $7300 gold is needed to balance our sovereign debt, a Dow to Gold ratio of 1-1 at 7300 Dow/Gold would
    achieve that. That same method produced gold's actual peak in 1980 to within 5% accuracy.

    roadrunner
    Barbarous Relic No More, LSCC -GoldSeek--shadow stats--SafeHaven--321gold
  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,660 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Remind us again how the Dow Jones Industrial Average was calculated, for the chart, for dates prior to it's first use in 1896?

    At any rate, taken at face value, the chart seems to indicate that a return of the ratio to 21 is more likely than a drop to 1, like it was in the 1860's image

    Liberty: Parent of Science & Industry

  • jmski52jmski52 Posts: 22,822 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Let's not forget that the Dow is skewed to favor a higher average, as failed and failing companies have routinely been replaced with more robust and innovative companies on the way up.

    Correct for that, and your 1:1 ratio will be much lower.
    Q: Are You Printing Money? Bernanke: Not Literally

    I knew it would happen.
  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,303 ✭✭✭✭✭
    At any rate, taken at face value, the chart seems to indicate that a return of the ratio to 21 is more likely than a drop to 1, like it was in the 1860's

    Back in the 1800's we were a growing industrial power than was more often on a gold standard than not. Hard money circulated for much of the time. That "wolf" wave that
    started cycling just after the FED was created was the first indication that we were shifting to a fiat money standard. After WW1 the world never really returned to a
    true gold standard because there were no longer any real bills, an no extinguishing of debt via gold. That Wolf wave will probably cycle even wider until the system
    just breaks. That seems much more likely to me than a return to 21. If you time out the current wave to hit the bottom line it doesn't do that until 2025. Seems like too long a
    time to drag this all out. 2014 is when the 120 yr economic cycle bottoms to form similar 4th turning bottoms as we had in 1894 and 1774.

    It all started back in 1914 when the world essentially left the gold standard to fight WW1. The chart shows the change quite clearly. 2 totally different eras.

    roadrunner
    Barbarous Relic No More, LSCC -GoldSeek--shadow stats--SafeHaven--321gold
  • percybpercyb Posts: 3,324 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>No, never ever ever, not a chance. >>



    I concur. Too many solid companies with great growth prospects.
    "Poets are the unacknowledged legislators of the world." PBShelley
  • percybpercyb Posts: 3,324 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Remind us again how the Dow Jones Industrial Average was calculated, for the chart, for dates prior to it's first use in 1896?

    At any rate, taken at face value, the chart seems to indicate that a return of the ratio to 21 is more likely than a drop to 1, like it was in the 1860's image >>



    I can not understand the chart. Someone please explain it.
    "Poets are the unacknowledged legislators of the world." PBShelley
  • percybpercyb Posts: 3,324 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Let's not forget that the Dow is skewed to favor a higher average, as failed and failing companies have routinely been replaced with more robust and innovative companies on the way up.

    Correct for that, and your 1:1 ratio will be much lower. >>



    Very good point!! You're correct to note this. Failed cos get jettizoned from the DJIA.
    "Poets are the unacknowledged legislators of the world." PBShelley
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