GAI Crossover Experience??

Charlie9

Hey guys...just wondering if anyone has had much experience with crossing over graded cards from GAI to PSA and what the results were? I know GAI has had all sorts of issues and I wouldn't trust them with packs, or auto certification, etc. but how accurate is their grading of basic raw cards? I'm not talking about super high end stuff that anyone would bother trimming or altering but late 70's commons that are GAI 10's so I'm wondering what are the chances these would crossover to a PSA 10? Sorry I don't have these in-hand so no scans can be provided but they certainly look sharp to my reasonably untrained eye.

artistlost

I tried to crossover 2 cards once from GAI to PSA and both failed. I bought the cards from two different sellers and both were GAI 7s. I will not try again.

mathew

Mickey71

The word crossover= in the holder. PSA will destroy you for sending GAI in the holder.....So now what we are talking about is a raw card submission. If you are expecting 10's you may be setting your sights to high.

Charlie9

Do you really think PSA will be influenced to grade down just because it comes in a GAI slab? We say it all the time...buy it for the card and not the slab it's in but I'd like to think PSA could be unbiased and grade appropriately. I guess the key question is do people think GAI's (semi-modern) slabbed cards are graded fairly accurately? Again, take out the question of a cards authenticity, but is the grade justified?

EagleEyeKid

I've only tried one. GAI 9.5 cracked open to PSA was EOT.

Dboneesq

<< <i>Hey guys...just wondering if anyone has had much experience with crossing over graded cards from GAI to PSA and what the results were? I'm not talking about super high end stuff that anyone would bother trimming or altering but late 70's commons that are GAI 10's so I'm wondering what are the chances these would crossover to a PSA 10? >>



Late 70s in PSA "10" could bring hundreds of dollars ... surely enough "incentive" for some lowlife to trim and/or alter.

Probstein123

gai's in the holder have no real chance of crossing...

if you then go to option #2 and crack out, a large amount will come back as EOT..

best to stay away....

Charlie9

Thanks guys...let me pose this a different way so I get the info I'm looking for. GAI currently has a program (boy they must be getting desperate) where they will grade your cards for free. Once you learn the grades you then have the choice to have them encapsulate the card for a fee or to return the cards to you. I have a group of 100 cards or so that I pulled myself from vending or wax that I have sen to them so they can do the grade work on them, and the ones they determine are 10's (if any) I could either have them slab or still keep raw but then turn around and send them to PSA, pay my $6 per card and take my chances that some of them get the 10 grade as well.

Basically with the shipping cost I look at it as paying about 30 cents per card to have an "expert" pre-grade my cards so I know which ones stand the best chance at passing the PSA grading test. The question is, does GAI qualify as an "expert" in assigning grades to their cards (taking out any issues of alteration as these were all hand pulled)?

I know I'll get some grief for this but while I know the difference between an 8 and a 10, it's alot tougher for me to tell apart a 9 and a 10 and with modern commons it's a losing proposition to pay PSA $6 a card only to end up with all 9's. At least this way I have a "self-proclaimed" expert grading the cards for me so I can at least narrow down the ones I send into PSA.

So with all that being said...if GAI comes back and says 20/100 would be GAI 10's...any guesses as to how many of those would also garner the PSA 10 grade if I turn around and send them in?

wrestlingcardking

I sent in an 1887 GAI 6 of William Muldoon (crack out) and it came back a PSA 7...sent in a GAI 7 of Matsada Sorakichi from the 1887 Allen and Ginter set (crack out) and I got a PSA 6 back. Not too bad for the value they hold in a GAI holder. Could have been much, much worse. I would never do a crossover.

Pittfan

I cracked out 5 75's that were Gai 9's got 1 9 2 8's 1 7 and 1 5

alifaxwa2

<< <i>Once you learn the grades you then have the choice to have them encapsulate the card for a fee or to return the cards to you. >>



This gives them significant incentive to overgrade your cards

Charlie9

<< <i>

<< <i>Once you learn the grades you then have the choice to have them encapsulate the card for a fee or to return the cards to you. >>



This gives them significant incentive to overgrade your cards >>



Yep, I have thought of that too!

fiveniner

GAI held some credibility for a short time however those days seem to be long over with.

Mickey71

If you sent them valuable cards....do you think you would even get them back?......I'm serious.