1798 Russia copper ?

jfoot13

I know this is kinda dumb but how do you tell the demonination on these things ? From looking at a few pictures of the 4 kopek I see the 4 stars but is this a 1 kopek or 1/2 kopek?



thanks
Ken

ajaan

I believe the denomination is written under the dragon? But then again, I can't read Russian.

Muygrandeoso

I am fairly certain this is a Denga (1/2 Kopek)

Chris

Muygrandeoso

<< <i>I am fairly certain this is a Denga (1/2 Kopek)

Chris >>



Catherine II minted at Ekaterinburg.

jfoot13

The thing that was throwing me is this piece weighs 5.4 grams and the ones I could find weights for on the internet were about 4

Muygrandeoso

Krause lists the weight of 1/2 kopeks of this era as 6.4 grams

jfoot13

Yes I think you're right It's the 1/4 kopek that was 3. something grams and the half kopek was 6.4 and this piece is 5.39 kinda in the middle and I don't know how to determine the denomination

SaorAlba

I can determine what was meant to be the denomination by reading what remains of the text on the front of the coin with St. George slaying the dragon, "kopeika" which is singular of kopek in Russian. In numeric ordinals in Russian 1 kopek is kopeika, 2 kopeks are 2 kopeiki, 5 kopeks are 5 kopeikiy etc. If this was a polushka or denga/denezhka it would read those and not kopek on coins from this era.

A descriptive word ending in "a" is most always singular, implying one. Words ending in "и" or "ий" are plural.

TwoKopeiki

<< <i>I can determine what was meant to be the denomination by reading what remains of the text on the front of the coin with St. George slaying the dragon, "kopeika" which is singular of kopek in Russian. In numeric ordinals in Russian 1 kopek is kopeika, 2 kopeks are 2 kopeiki, 5 kopeks are 5 kopeikiy etc. If this was a polushka or denga/denezhka it would read those and not kopek on coins from this era.

A descriptive word ending in "a" is most always singular, implying one. Words ending in "¨¨" or "¨¨¨¦" are plural. >>



Yup, the denomination on that coin is Kopeika (1 kopek). SaorAlba nailed it. The weight difference is interesting.

SaorAlba

Oh, but also I need add that back in Tsarist era plural words could end in "ь" or sometimes even "ы" which is a more silent character. It was practically only good result of communism was simplification of alphabet.

jfoot13

So is this a kopek struck on wrong planchet or was the quality control that bad lol

nicholasz219

Quality control just that bad.

SaorAlba

<< <i>Quality control just that bad. >>



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