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Early Copper Collectors - how do you feel about

BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,790 ✭✭✭✭✭
planchet defects on your early copper?
Things like pronounced cracks or splits in the coin?

Do you feel they give character and individuality? Or, are you of the mindset that they are detracting and would prefer a coin that doesn't have any issues?

Note: When I say "issues", I don't mean a problem issue like cleaning/post mint damage/etc.

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    llafoellafoe Posts: 7,220 ✭✭
    I find them unattractive... what I mean by that is that all the coins I find are unattractive! image

    I don't collect coins with planchet flaws... Larsen has a few that are raw and were free, but I would never purchase one slabbed.
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    MidLifeCrisisMidLifeCrisis Posts: 10,613 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I generally try to avoid such coins.

    But it really depends on the severity of the flaw.
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    coindudeonebaycoindudeonebay Posts: 1,735 ✭✭✭
    Take a look at this one, I actually think it adds character.
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    notwilightnotwilight Posts: 12,864 ✭✭✭
    Depends how early, how prominent, and how they affect the eye appeal. 18th century I'm willing to forgive a lot in a circulated example but not if it ruins the eye appeal. Would much rather have a planchet defect than corrosion. Early 19th centruy, I'm a bit more picky but still forgiving. Mid 19th century, I tend more toward MS examples and they would treat them similar to modern planchet defects: cool if they are minor and don't detract from eye appeal.
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    questor54questor54 Posts: 1,351
    It is interesting that some things which are regarded as 'flaws' in classic issues are regard as 'valuable mint errors' in modern issues.
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    jmski52jmski52 Posts: 23,970 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I bought this coin because I liked it, and I still do. I initially bought a chocolate brown 10 over 09 Large Cent, but I drove another 150 miles the next day to go back to the same show and trade it for this coin - because I couldn't get this coin out of my head after seeing it. I cashed in and threw more money into the mix to buy this coin. This coin is representative of the times in which it was made - varying planchet and copper quality, basic tooling combined with meaningful, thoughtful design work.

    I probably won't buy a bunch of coins with planchet flaws, but this coin fits my collection and adds some interest at the same time.
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    ThePennyLadyThePennyLady Posts: 4,516 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I love coins with flaws because it makes that coin more unique and special than any other. I especially like die cracks, defective planchets, strike thrus, cuds, split planchets, etc. Many of the coins in my personal collection have such mint defects. Here are a few...

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    johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 33,059 ✭✭✭✭✭
    i usally dont mess with defective planchets none to much. theres just no interest in the coppers at this point. who knows later on thou
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    joecopperjoecopper Posts: 1,195 ✭✭✭
    I agree with MidLife
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    SonorandesertratSonorandesertrat Posts: 5,695 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Cracked/split planchets? I don't care for them.
    Coins struck from shattered dies, on the other hand, can be very cool IMO.
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    BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If your not intentionally looking for errors, I'd shy away from any rim clip or lamination on early copper.
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    ShamikaShamika Posts: 18,785 ✭✭✭✭
    I LOVE die cracks. Definitely adds character!

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    halfcentmanhalfcentman Posts: 1,498 ✭✭✭


    << <i>planchet defects on your early copper?
    Things like pronounced cracks or splits in the coin?

    Do you feel they give character and individuality? Or, are you of the mindset that they are detracting and would prefer a coin that doesn't have any issues?

    Note: When I say "issues", I don't mean a problem issue like cleaning/post mint damage/etc. >>



    Cracked planchets are usually detracting.
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    MikeInFLMikeInFL Posts: 10,192 ✭✭✭✭
    All things being equal, I would prefer a coin with no defects, and tend to shy away from coins with them.
    Collector of Large Cents, US Type, and modern pocket change.
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    TPRCTPRC Posts: 3,817 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It depends. For colonials I prefer pieces with complete, nice smooth planchets. They are hard to find. For others, however, like HTTs or CWTs, IHCs, etc., planchet errors can add character to pieces.

    Tom

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    BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,790 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thanks guys.
    I'm thinking that same but there is one that is for sale that has a planchet defect that was still tempting....but probably not going to do it (and, it is in a PCGS slab).

    I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment

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    I'd have to agree with several posters. I find planchet flaws, laminations, to be detracting......especially in the hgher grade examples. Some Mint made striking "defect"s don't bother me as much, like LCs with minor depressions from struck through grease. The flawed coin will always take second fiddle to a non-flawed-coin - in eye appeal and price.
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    JCMhoustonJCMhouston Posts: 5,306 ✭✭✭
    While I don't go out of my way to buy them sometimes planchet defects appeal to me, this 1826 Penny has extremely deep planchet cracks running across it.

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