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  • itzagoneritzagoner Posts: 8,753 ✭✭
    Oregon, Nevada, Arizona & Mexico.

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  • divecchiadivecchia Posts: 6,688 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I like his description about the insurance and I quote

    "Due to the large amount of money that is involved there will be special handling care AND Insurance protected to make sure that NO ONE is FRAUDED."

    Donato

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  • tigerdeantigerdean Posts: 924 ✭✭✭
    I just hate it when I am frauded!!
  • Yankees001Yankees001 Posts: 1,496
    Borders are over rated. They take away from the true beauty of the card.

    Dave
  • otwcardsotwcards Posts: 5,291 ✭✭✭
    The interesting thing would be to send it to Beckett and demand that they cross it to a BGS 9 holder since they graded it MINT or Better... image
  • SDavidSDavid Posts: 1,584 ✭✭
    The holder and the flip look fake.

    Here's another one for comparison:

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  • CDsNutsCDsNuts Posts: 10,092
    That is a homemade flip and slab with a counterfeit Gretzky.
  • SDavidSDavid Posts: 1,584 ✭✭


    << <i>That is a homemade flip and slab with a counterfeit Gretzky. >>



    Wish I could see the seller's face when he realizes that "Rookie" shouldn't be on there.

    Oops.
  • CDsNutsCDsNuts Posts: 10,092
    Wish I could see the seller's face when he realizes that "Rookie" shouldn't be on there. Oops.

    No kidding. Whoever made that flip is a moron. I'm a graphic design novice and I could recreate the BCCG flip almost exactly in about an hour.
  • Snipe set.
  • EagleEyeKidEagleEyeKid Posts: 4,496 ✭✭
    Too funny. I never looked closer at the slab or the flip.
  • CDsNutsCDsNuts Posts: 10,092
    He didn't even use a straight edge to cut the bottom of the flip. You would think if you're trying to pull of a 70k scam you would spring $30 for a paper cutter.
  • benderbroethbenderbroeth Posts: 1,699 ✭✭
    wow i hope it does not sell
    my t-205's


    looking for low grade t205's psa 1-2
  • Did anyone notice he spelled Gretzky with an "s" instead of a "z"? Pretty funny listing.
  • Jeez... way to ruin his as-of-yet flawless reputation. Do you think he doesn't know it's fake? Or do you think he's created everything himself and is planning to bolt to Mexico with the proceeds?
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  • For his Rose RC auction...

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    Would you consider any offers a little bit lower than $5,000?

    Thank you!

    - muggyman
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    Dear muggyman,

    Yes but not much lower..what is your offer?

    - michalman_98
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    Hi, thanks for your reply.

    I was hoping for $4,000, but the most I can do is $4,250.

    I can pay via paypal and/or some cash or USPS money orders.

    Let me know, thank you!

    - Muggyman
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    Stay tuned, the sting is on...
  • ANYONE WANT A FAKE ROSE RC FOR $4,000+?
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    Dear muggyman,

    4500..I still have 4 days left on my bid...paypal distributed into my account..once money clears I can forward you your card..please send me your address...thank you..Mike

    - michalman_98
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    Dear muggyman,

    send me 4250 now and and 250 next week...thru paypal..DEAL

    - michalman_98
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    from Muggyman...

    i only have $4,200, i'd actually prefer $4,000 now and $250 after I get it.

    'you wanna? let's!

    thank you!
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    Dear muggyman,

    I will let you know in a few days..remember ebay takes 9 % also..so not exactly what I am looking for
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    Dear muggyman,

    either paypal or cash..not playing any other way..as I said I would like to receive 5000. I will let you know if your bid stands up..sorry I know this card is going to really increase sooner or later..hard to let it go
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    Dear muggyman,

    After speaking with my wife she said $4250 cash or paypal and we have a deal in 2 days..stay in touch.

    Mike
  • Dear muggyman,

    Hey I just reported you to EBAY officials for harassment. I suggest you correct your statements made against me and my products. Don't mess with me and get a life.

    - michalman_98
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    Dear michalman_98,

    Excuse me, what statements?

    - Muggyman
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    Dear muggyman,

    The statements in the collectors forum..I suggest you remove them immediately

    - michalman_98
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    From Muggyman,

    Suggestion not approved.
  • corvette1340corvette1340 Posts: 3,384 ✭✭✭
    I sent this tool a message that just read "lol" and he sent me back something or other and told me I couldn't afford such a card.
  • <<I sent this tool a message that just read "lol" and he sent me back something or other and told me I couldn't afford such a card.>>

    I can only afford $4,250.
  • Dear muggyman,

    Go ahead and keep posting your negative comments on the Collectors Forum..I will make sure that you are removed for harassment and to let others know about you. I have contacted Beckett for verification...loser..

    - michalman_98
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    From Muggyman...

    Have you received verification from Beckett yet?
  • EBAY auction...

    On his EBAY listing, I get an honorable mention....
    "SPECIAL NOTE: I HAVE REPORTED ALL NEGATIVE COMMENTS MADE AGAINST ME BY MEMBER MUGGYMAN AND OTHERS TO EBAY OFFICIALS...THIS HARASSMENT WILL NOT BE ALLOWED"
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  • Dear muggyman,

    First of all quit emailing me or I will report you to the local authorities. Second I dont need to answer to you..you said you are not interested and you accused me of Fraud..Quit emailing me.

    - michalman_98
  • EagleEyeKidEagleEyeKid Posts: 4,496 ✭✭
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  • First how dare you both post negative comments about something that you have no business posting. I have shown this card to the biggest auction house that sold the Gretzky card and they are very interested in it. So go get a life and quit harassing me and posting negative comments..
    Michael
  • YogiBerraFanYogiBerraFan Posts: 2,390 ✭✭
    Chapter 2 starts now. I think we are going to need the popcorn girl.
  • EagleEyeKidEagleEyeKid Posts: 4,496 ✭✭
    I have shown this card to the biggest auction house that sold the Gretzky card and they are very interested in it.

    You showed the card back to the auction house that sold you the card? Huh, what?
  • SDavidSDavid Posts: 1,584 ✭✭
    The certification number on the Gretzky isn't even for an opc card, lol. Probably all a coincidence though--they just happened to screw up the flip, slab, and certification info all at once. Amazing how that always happens with sellers who have one selling feedback from five years ago.

    bccg
  • rexvosrexvos Posts: 3,330 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>First how dare you both post negative comments about something that you have no business posting. I have shown this card to the biggest auction house that sold the Gretzky card and they are very interested in it. So go get a life and quit harassing me and posting negative comments.. >>



    you sir bring shame to the name Michael. Please change your name. thanks.
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  • brendanb438brendanb438 Posts: 1,595 ✭✭✭
    So is this new addition to the forum the real eBay seller or a shill account? Dang tough to say.

    Anyone again the seller is retarded, that Gretzky is a fake fool. Compare the card and the flip to the real thing. I don't even want to look at the Rose, not in the mood to laugh.
  • BrickBrick Posts: 5,001 ✭✭✭✭✭
    michaelman98
    Hi, hello, how are ya? image

    Glad you're here. Always good to get the other side of a dispute from the participant. Be right back, I'm going to make myself some popcorn.
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  • benderbroethbenderbroeth Posts: 1,699 ✭✭
    sounds legit to me..back off now...imageimageimageimageimageimageimageimageimageimageimageimageimageimageimageimageimageimageimageimageimageimageimageimageimageimageimageimageimage
    my t-205's


    looking for low grade t205's psa 1-2
  • sportscardtheorysportscardtheory Posts: 1,786 ✭✭✭
    It takes a special kind of complete moron to come to a forum where people know everything about cards and try and defend your fake ass BS as if it's real.
  • jackstrawjackstraw Posts: 3,817 ✭✭✭✭
    At least he could do is answer the question "where is the borders" ??
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  • eagles33eagles33 Posts: 2,684 ✭✭✭
    To the seller.. This is a very high end card however there are several major flaws with the slab. Anyone that has ever seen a beckett slab could tell you that. Since you insist the card is real why not spend 20 buck to have it by beckett and then put it on the market? I'm adding my 2 cents because this auction does affect me. I buy and sell bgs graded cards all the time. There is zero percent chance this card gets reslabbed. This card is not only fake but the slab and flip are mediocre reproductions. Losers like you putting this garbage on the mkt could potential hurt future prices on bgs graded items
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  • "You're currently the high bidder.

    Hi muggyman,
    So far, so good! Your bid has been confirmed, and you are the high bidder. It's almost yours, but you could still be outbid. You can improve your chances of winning by increasing your bid.

    Original Graded BCCG 9 - Pete Rose Rookie
    Current price: $5,000.00"


  • cpamikecpamike Posts: 5,567 ✭✭✭
    Congratulations Muggy!!!

    I hope you bid more than the $5k as you might get outbid for that bad boy. image

    Seriously though, I hope no newbie comes along, sees your bid, and tries to outbid you. image
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  • Dear muggyman,

    Wait now you are bidding, after bashing me on Collectors Forum??? I am hoping you are going to apologize ONLINE so everyone sees that the comments you made were incorrect.

    - michalman_98
  • EagleEyeKidEagleEyeKid Posts: 4,496 ✭✭
    Wait now you are bidding, after bashing me on Collectors Forum??? I am hoping you are going to apologize ONLINE so everyone sees that the comments you made were incorrect.

    omfg image
  • thunderdanthunderdan Posts: 3,036 ✭✭✭
    Some people shouldn't be procreating.
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  • hammeredhammered Posts: 2,671 ✭✭✭
    Come on, everyone, leave the kid alone
    Let him make a few bucks
  • Dear muggyman,

    I am awaiting word from Beckett regarding the serial number matching the card. I have also contacted Beckett regarding the Gretzky card, the card is official the casing is not. They will regrade the card for me and will be reposted eventually.I see you have bidded on the Pete Rose card and I will have an answer hopefully soon.

    - michalman_98
  • Dear Muggyman:
    The bid that you entered for the item (280698348988) has been cancelled. You can view the reason provided for the cancellation by selecting the (bid history) link from the individual item page.
  • cpamikecpamike Posts: 5,567 ✭✭✭
    So sad. I know you had your heart set on that Rose.

    I'm sure once he has that Rose reviewed by Beckett, it will be relisted and you'll get first crack at it. image
    "The woods are lovely, dark and deep.
    But I have promises to keep,
    And miles to go before I sleep,
    And miles to go before I sleep."

    "Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans."

    Collecting:
    Any unopened Baseball cello and rack packs and boxes from the 1970's and early 1980s.
  • From: eBay Member: muggyman
    Subject: Re: Other: muggyman sent a message about Original Graded BCCG 9 - Pete Rose Rookie #280698348988

    Dear michalman_98,

    What happened to the Rose RC, would you accept the $4,250?

    Thanks!
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    Dear muggyman,

    Until I have verified everything is REAL I am not selling anything. I am working with Beckett. Once verified Gretzky and Rose will be back on the market.








  • NickMNickM Posts: 4,895 ✭✭✭
    So much for the claims that Beckett slabs weren't being faked.

    Nick
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