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  • mrmint23mrmint23 Posts: 2,249 ✭✭✭
    L- 9
    R- 10
  • scmavlscmavl Posts: 1,409 ✭✭✭
    8.5, 10
    2.5 is pretty much my speed.
  • BlackieBlackie Posts: 1,719 ✭✭✭
    Both 8.5
    1964 Topps Football
  • gameusedhoopgameusedhoop Posts: 3,632 ✭✭✭✭
    Mark in the right hand border of the left card concerns me.

    PSA 5 PSA 9
  • OAKESY25OAKESY25 Posts: 4,726 ✭✭✭
    L 5 WRINKLE on the right border midway?
    r - 9 (hopefully 10)
  • jimradjimrad Posts: 2,777 ✭✭✭
    8
    8
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  • Bosox1976Bosox1976 Posts: 8,566 ✭✭✭✭✭
    6......8.5
    Mike
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  • LodiBrewFanLodiBrewFan Posts: 564 ✭
    L 10
    R 9, small print dot the S in Brewers keeps it out of a 10 holder
    Scoreboard Malfunction
  • OAKESY25OAKESY25 Posts: 4,726 ✭✭✭
    Look how much bigger the right one is.. holy cow
  • EagleEyeKidEagleEyeKid Posts: 4,496 ✭✭
    Oh no, not again.
    L-10
    R-6
    image
  • itzagoneritzagoner Posts: 8,753 ✭✭
    L 7.5
    R 9
  • BoopottsBoopotts Posts: 6,784 ✭✭
    I don't know, but I'm going to guess that whichever one has the lowest grade is one that you self submitted.
  • gumbyfangumbyfan Posts: 5,168 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I don't know, but I'm going to guess that whichever one has the lowest grade is one that you self submitted. >>



    And which one do you think that is?
  • BoopottsBoopotts Posts: 6,784 ✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>I don't know, but I'm going to guess that whichever one has the lowest grade is one that you self submitted. >>



    And which one do you think that is? >>



    I don't know, Craig. To be honest, they both look like very nice, mint cards to me. I would be happy to own either. And if I can take a moment to be candid, after eight years of screwing around with this stuff I've come to the conclusion that the only thing sillier than taking PSA's grading opinion seriously is gnashing one's teeth over their inconsistency.
  • divecchiadivecchia Posts: 6,688 ✭✭✭✭✭
    7,8.5

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  • jay0791jay0791 Posts: 3,574 ✭✭✭✭
    minus nothing hidden like backs or wrinkles.
    L 8
    R 9
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  • gumbyfangumbyfan Posts: 5,168 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I don't know, Craig. To be honest, they both look like very nice, mint cards to me. I would be happy to own either. And if I can take a moment to be candid, after eight years of screwing around with this stuff I've come to the conclusion that the only thing sillier than taking PSA's grading opinion seriously is gnashing one's teeth over their inconsistency. >>



    I hear ya, Guy. However, when there's a 5 figure difference between grades, it's a little more than just inconsistency that I grind my teeth at. image

    The 10 was sold by Memory Lane just over a year ago for $21,763 plus the 19% buyer's premium for a whopping total of $25,898. I don't know the VCP of a 9, but it's under $500.

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  • gumbyfangumbyfan Posts: 5,168 ✭✭✭


    << <i>L 10
    R 9, small print dot the S in Brewers keeps it out of a 10 holder >>



    Good pickup! However, the discoloration under the B in Brewers coupled with that bottom edge and top right corner on the PSA 10 seem to be enough to have kept that one out of a 10 as well. image

    I'd prefer to own this 9, but I'd much more prefer to have the $20k for the 10 and buy back a 9 for $500. image
  • burke23burke23 Posts: 1,475 ✭✭✭
    I knew the right was your 9 from a year or two ago. Still think you should crack and resub that badboy. Beautiful card...it would be a mid-grade 10 for the '75 set I assume.
    Looking for rare Randy Moss rookies and autos, as well as '97 PMG Red Football cards for my set.
  • gumbyfangumbyfan Posts: 5,168 ✭✭✭
    I actually just got it back from PSA again, Pete. It was the last time I'll be cracking & resubbing it. I was given the definitive "this will never be a 10 because of PD so stop trying".
  • mcadamsmcadams Posts: 2,618 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>L 10
    R 9, small print dot the S in Brewers keeps it out of a 10 holder >>



    Good pickup! However, the discoloration under the B in Brewers coupled with that bottom edge and top right corner on the PSA 10 seem to be enough to have kept that one out of a 10 as well. image

    I'd prefer to own this 9, but I'd much more prefer to have the $20k for the 10 and buy back a 9 for $500. image >>




    What about the apparant dimple on the right side of the 10? Is that just something on the scanner? Looks like a dimple from where I sit...
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  • gumbyfangumbyfan Posts: 5,168 ✭✭✭
    I assume it's a scratch on the holder since it looks like it is shadowed on the card.
  • burke23burke23 Posts: 1,475 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I actually just got it back from PSA again, Pete. It was the last time I'll be cracking & resubbing it. I was given the definitive "this will never be a 10 because of PD so stop trying". >>



    Sad. The registration alone on yours is 10-worthy...much nicer than the 9. Centering is better too. If yours has a PD, I don't think it detracts from the cards appearance...not enough to knock it down, and not with how strong the other features are.
    Looking for rare Randy Moss rookies and autos, as well as '97 PMG Red Football cards for my set.
  • EagleEyeKidEagleEyeKid Posts: 4,496 ✭✭
    Craig, I thought your card came back as a 6 this time from the other board
    and fears that it was damaged.
  • gumbyfangumbyfan Posts: 5,168 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Craig, I thought your card came back as a 6 this time from the other board
    and fears that it was damaged. >>



    It was an 8 that was changed to a 9 after reviewed.
  • eyeboneeyebone Posts: 1,404 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I actually just got it back from PSA again, Pete. It was the last time I'll be cracking & resubbing it. I was given the definitive "this will never be a 10 because of PD so stop trying". >>




    then get rid of the print dot. i suggest a fine-tipped paint brush similar to those used to paint model airplanes accompanied by some high quality orange paint. if your hand remains steady you might well be in the money. good luck.

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  • thedutymonthedutymon Posts: 4,323 ✭


    << <i>

    << <i>I actually just got it back from PSA again, Pete. It was the last time I'll be cracking & resubbing it. I was given the definitive "this will never be a 10 because of PD so stop trying". >>




    then get rid of the print dot. i suggest a fine-tipped paint brush similar to those used to paint model airplanes accompanied by some high quality orange paint. if your hand remains steady you might well be in the money. good luck.

    eyebone >>



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  • BoopottsBoopotts Posts: 6,784 ✭✭
    Where's the PD? I don't see it anywhere. Your card (the 9) looks perfect to me.
  • burke23burke23 Posts: 1,475 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Where's the PD? I don't see it anywhere. Your card (the 9) looks perfect to me. >>



    only thing I see is the little dot in the upper right corner of the 'S' in Brewers. I don't think that is worse than the faded mark below the left part of the 'B' in Brewers on the 10. You can nit pick any non-modern 10 out there. Craigs would fit in a 10 slab just fine.
    Looking for rare Randy Moss rookies and autos, as well as '97 PMG Red Football cards for my set.
  • gumbyfangumbyfan Posts: 5,168 ✭✭✭
    They consider the bluer parts of the sky in the background to be the PD. Not the dot in the S of Brewers, as far as I know.
  • BoopottsBoopotts Posts: 6,784 ✭✭


    << <i>They consider the bluer parts of the sky in the background to be the PD. Not the dot in the S of Brewers, as far as I know. >>




    That might be the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. There's no difference in the 'sky' between these two cards.
  • mknezmknez Posts: 1,992 ✭✭✭
    It doesn't matter to the grader what any previous 10's look like, he is looking at your card only, and if he doesn't feel it's a10, it won't be. Until you find the grader that does, it's gonna stay a 9 or worse (as you know!)

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    stupid print dots

  • gumbyfangumbyfan Posts: 5,168 ✭✭✭
    It should matter to PSA...especially considering the $20k+ difference in price.
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