Any thoughts on this cash piece?

MrBreeze

I have looked through all of my references and can't seem to find a match.

olmanjon

No Pics?

MrBreeze

Sorry, the pics were deleted from the attachment area. Trying again...

mrpotatoheadd

You could try checking here.

MrBreeze

Still no luck. Any weekend cash experts?

jt88

<< <i>Still no luck. Any weekend cash experts? >>



It is from Yuan Dynasty (1280-1368). It is a class 8 coin.

icsoccer

Can you explain what you mean by class 8? I have seen reference to this 'class' system before...but I am not familiar with it.
TIA!

jt88

<< <i>Can you explain what you mean by class 8? I have seen reference to this 'class' system before...but I am not familiar with it.
TIA! >>



Class is a Chinese rarity rating for Chinese coins. It is from class 1 to class 10. I believe class 1 to 7 are not allow to export out side of China. Most of the coins that showed up on auction are Class 7 to Class 10. For example junk dollar year 23 is class 10. Bird over boat is class 6. Fatman is class 10.

This one is class 5.

class 5

This one is class 4.

class 4

This should give you some idea about class

MrBreeze

Thanks for the info. Is there a particular reference where you got it? I have been all over the web and my books and haven't found an exact match, yet.

jt88

<< <i>Thanks for the info. Is there a particular reference where you got it? I have been all over the web and my books and haven't found an exact match, yet. >>



Well, so far I found only one book has rarity rating in English is "An overview of China's Gold and Silver Coins of past ages - the gold and silver coins and medals of modern China" By Dong Wenchao. The rarity rating he used is 1 to 5. It is much narrow than class 1 to 10. BTW, that book is a must have for Chinese gold and silver coin collectors. It is call Chinese Kann book. That's one of the few books that most auction houses refer to all the time.

Here is the definition of his rarity rating:

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jt88

For example this coin is class 2 but on his book he rated this coin 5 stars which is the rarest. The bird over boat he rated 1 star which is the lowest rarity rating.

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sumnom

Could you tell us more about it and provide a reference? I wasn't able to figure out what it is. I couldn't find it in Ding Fubao under Yuan. Also, what is the correct reading?

MrBreeze

I still have not found an exact match for this coin in any reference or online. It has some pieces and parts from a few eras, but no exact match. Any more experts?

tacynnep

This is a very rare coin only few known? but with very little information. check this link but
in Chinese. Hope this help. Very nice fine.
http://www.cangdian.com/HTML/07/03/070303080424.html

determined

<< <i>This is a very rare coin only few known? but with very little information. check this link but
in Chinese. Hope this help. Very nice fine.
http://www.cangdian.com/HTML/07/03/070303080424.html >>



Good find tacynnep!

Run through Google's translator

Chinese is difficult for the Google translator. But what I got out of it is that it is a coin from the late Southern Song Dynasty (late 1200's). And that it is still a mystery coin even to Chinese scholars. But may have to do with an anti-Yuan (anti-Mongols) rebel, faction or hero of the Southern Song Dynasty.

I collect ancient Chinese coins. Although I'm not an authority on authenticity for this coin. It looks like a cool find.

MrBreeze

Thanks guys. That is the first example I have seen other than the one I have. Now I am wondering if mine is a copy if it is that cool.