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Wrestling All Stars (103 of 108 Autos) 83 in RED FLIPS, 1 BLUE (1982 A COMPLETE)!!!

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  • Dpeck100Dpeck100 Posts: 10,912 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Keep it going! This has been quite the project.



  • kingbeeswaxkingbeeswax Posts: 1,423 ✭✭✭
    I should have purchased the Strongbow! Congrats on the nice pickup
  • thenavarrothenavarro Posts: 7,497 ✭✭✭
    Dang, I missed that one. Nice pickup.

    Mike
    Buying US Presidential autographs
  • wrestlingcardkingwrestlingcardking Posts: 4,555 ✭✭✭✭
    happy to run across that one...did not even try to barter with that one......
    BUYING Frank Gotch T229 Kopec
    Looking to BUY n332 1889 SF Hess cards and high grade cards from 19th century especially. "Once you have wrestled everything else in life is easy" Dan Gable
  • wrestlingcardkingwrestlingcardking Posts: 4,555 ✭✭✭✭
    A monster of an addition is in process....really excited about this one........TBA soon! This will be 96!!!
    BUYING Frank Gotch T229 Kopec
    Looking to BUY n332 1889 SF Hess cards and high grade cards from 19th century especially. "Once you have wrestled everything else in life is easy" Dan Gable
  • Amazing stuff.
    How often have you seen Killer Kahn auto cards show up.
    Has PSA/DNA been adding more wrestling autos in the authentication data base now with guys from this set.
  • wrestlingcardkingwrestlingcardking Posts: 4,555 ✭✭✭✭
    I have seen a few Killer Khans show up. I am thinking of sending in a bunch with the expectation that many of them could be vouchered. I'd really like to get a red flip set.
    BUYING Frank Gotch T229 Kopec
    Looking to BUY n332 1889 SF Hess cards and high grade cards from 19th century especially. "Once you have wrestled everything else in life is easy" Dan Gable
  • Dpeck100Dpeck100 Posts: 10,912 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Well Rob there are not many left! If this is who I think it might be yes it is a monster addition for sure!!!!

    Can't wait to see you unveil it here when in hand!!!

  • wrestlingcardkingwrestlingcardking Posts: 4,555 ✭✭✭✭
    I am awaiting PSA to show off some new ones in PSA slabs and I just need to get my Dick the Bruiser scanned. I may send that to PSA and hope for the best in terms of them slabbing it.
    BUYING Frank Gotch T229 Kopec
    Looking to BUY n332 1889 SF Hess cards and high grade cards from 19th century especially. "Once you have wrestled everything else in life is easy" Dan Gable
  • wrestlingcardkingwrestlingcardking Posts: 4,555 ✭✭✭✭
    Here is a huge addition to the signed wrestling all star collection, I bring you BRUISER BRODY
    BUYING Frank Gotch T229 Kopec
    Looking to BUY n332 1889 SF Hess cards and high grade cards from 19th century especially. "Once you have wrestled everything else in life is easy" Dan Gable
  • Dpeck100Dpeck100 Posts: 10,912 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That is indeed a huge score.

    For those who do not know this is one of the most difficult wrestling autographs to find.

    Brody was killed in 1988 in Puerto Rico and was not a very frequent signer. There was only a six year window for these cards to be signed and Brody spent a tremendous amount of time in Japan.

    Rob I am very excited for you!
  • DboneesqDboneesq Posts: 18,219 ✭✭
    Rob ... AWESOME addition to your collection! CONGRATS!
    STAY HEALTHY!

    Doug

    Liquidating my collection for the 3rd and final time. Time for others to enjoy what I have enjoyed over the last several decades. Money could be put to better use.
  • thenavarrothenavarro Posts: 7,497 ✭✭✭
    Nice pickup. That guy was a BEAST.

    Mike
    Buying US Presidential autographs
  • wrestlingcardkingwrestlingcardking Posts: 4,555 ✭✭✭✭
    I honestly thought that I would be able to acquire a Andre the Giant before a Bruiser Brody autograph all star. I'm excited about this one.
    BUYING Frank Gotch T229 Kopec
    Looking to BUY n332 1889 SF Hess cards and high grade cards from 19th century especially. "Once you have wrestled everything else in life is easy" Dan Gable
  • NHLfightguyNHLfightguy Posts: 525 ✭✭
    Nice Brody...
    I think Blackwell has to be one of the toughest, for series 2. I have read that he was illiterate. ANyone have know legit examples of how he signed his name? I know he was on that sheet navarro posted. Sure he didn't like signing much.
  • georgebailey2georgebailey2 Posts: 1,078 ✭✭✭
    By no means am I trying to diminish the coolness of this thread, nor the accomplishment, BUT:

    For cards of:
    The Grappler
    Super D
    Mr. Olympia
    The Crusher (I hear Mel Blanc's voice and see Bugs Bunny saying, "Hold this," as he pulls the giant rubber band)
    The Destroyer, and last but certainly not least
    the aptly named - Mr. Wrestling 2 (as opposed to Jr. - I wonder what happened to Mr. Wrestling 1?)

    and to a lesser extent, all of those that weren't using real names - Sergeant Slaughter, The Iron Shiek, Koko Beware, etc., etc., etc.

    Well, the first group - how does PSA get good exemplars? That has to be as tough or tougher than getting an 1800's baseball player.

    Second, particularly since these cards have come out, the pretense of unscripted outcomes has gone away, wouldn't most of these guys be willing, perhaps, to sign their real name and then put their character's name in quotes?

    They must have had to practice these signatures endlessly in order to write one with any sense of style and consistency. It would take me forever to learn how to quickly, fluidly and consistently sign a made up name.
  • wrestlingcardkingwrestlingcardking Posts: 4,555 ✭✭✭✭
    I do think that PSA is a bit slow on having exemplars for many of the wrestlers in the set. I sent in a bunch of legit autos under last months special so it will be interesting to see how many are slabbed and how many vouchers I receive. I think with the interest in these cards and the attention they are receiving including an article in SMR, there could be more effort in trying to authenticate these autos. At least that is what I am trying to convince myself of. I think writing styles are fairly consistent no matter what the words are. If the Destroyer is signing his name "The Destroyer" thousands of times there is going to be a consistency to it over time. I may have some samples of his auto over a course of 20 years and you can witness for yourself. I really do not see the difference in how a wrestler's real name and stage name would be different than Cassius Clay changing his name to Muhammad Ali and PSA authenticating each of those autographs. The only difference would be the amount of autos they have seen of the guy but the words are different.

    I am facebook friends with a wrestler from the all star set. I wonder if I could have the wrestler verify that it is his autograph to PSA? I considered doing this as I have received a voucher for him before. How would I get this information to PSA?
    BUYING Frank Gotch T229 Kopec
    Looking to BUY n332 1889 SF Hess cards and high grade cards from 19th century especially. "Once you have wrestled everything else in life is easy" Dan Gable
  • Dpeck100Dpeck100 Posts: 10,912 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Okay Rob let's see them!!! I check the pop reports every day and saw a JYD and a Buddy Rogers hit today and I know those have to be Rob's.

    Congratulations my friend that is awesome!!!!
  • wrestlingcardkingwrestlingcardking Posts: 4,555 ✭✭✭✭
    Out of town right now but I now have the entire 1982 set in graded form!!! I have 34 in PSA/DNA red flips and have graded versions of Andre the Giant in PSA 7 and Bruiser Brody autographed card and one in a PSA 8 holder. I hope to get that one in a red flip as well and just leave my quest for an Andre the Giant full autograph...not just an Andre although I cannot be too picky.
    BUYING Frank Gotch T229 Kopec
    Looking to BUY n332 1889 SF Hess cards and high grade cards from 19th century especially. "Once you have wrestled everything else in life is easy" Dan Gable
  • Dpeck100Dpeck100 Posts: 10,912 ✭✭✭✭✭
    100% complete that is awesome!!

    Post the scans as soon as you can.

  • Yes Congratulations.

    D the All Stars have been sent, hoping for some nice ones!
    Miconelegacy Auctions
    "Live everyday, don't throw it away"
  • wrestlingcardkingwrestlingcardking Posts: 4,555 ✭✭✭✭
    A few facts on my sets....

    I need two more 1982s to have a complete set of the B set now

    I need five more of the 1983s to have a complete set of it.

    As for the 1982 set, I have 8 of the 10 wrestlers who are deceased in red flips and only need to acquire the Andre the Giant. Of course that is a huge card but I do know a few people that have it so you never know.

    BUYING Frank Gotch T229 Kopec
    Looking to BUY n332 1889 SF Hess cards and high grade cards from 19th century especially. "Once you have wrestled everything else in life is easy" Dan Gable
  • wrestlingcardkingwrestlingcardking Posts: 4,555 ✭✭✭✭
    I added some scans and upgrades to the lot including Junkyard Dog (new), The Hulk Hogan (new), Tony Atlas PSA 9 (incredible) and Buddy Rogers (new). Upgrades also included Brad Rheingans from a PSA 5 to a PSA 7 and a Angelo Mosca from a PSA 4.5 to a PSA 6. Another upgrade was from Ernie Ladd PSA 6 to a PSA 7 which is awesome since he passed away a few years ago and those upgrades are quite tough! Also slabbed a Adrian Adonis in a PSA slab which was a first for me in after previously being vouchered.
    BUYING Frank Gotch T229 Kopec
    Looking to BUY n332 1889 SF Hess cards and high grade cards from 19th century especially. "Once you have wrestled everything else in life is easy" Dan Gable
  • wrestlingcardkingwrestlingcardking Posts: 4,555 ✭✭✭✭
    I have 35 of the 36 in series A and only missing Andre the Giant......all the rest are in slabs minus Bruiser Brody and I have not attempted to get him in one yet.
    BUYING Frank Gotch T229 Kopec
    Looking to BUY n332 1889 SF Hess cards and high grade cards from 19th century especially. "Once you have wrestled everything else in life is easy" Dan Gable
  • wrestlingcardkingwrestlingcardking Posts: 4,555 ✭✭✭✭
    It is official as I have a complete graded 1982 set with graded cards filling in for the signed cards that I do not have or in red flips, also have the 1982 B set completely graded, and 1983 wrestling all star set. I have 21 autographs that need to be authenticated and slabbed but they are of lesser known wrestlers for the most part so it may take a while for PSA to recognize them. In the mean time, I have a graded PSA card to take their spot and the signed version as well. I want a slabbed set and this will have to do for now. :-)
    BUYING Frank Gotch T229 Kopec
    Looking to BUY n332 1889 SF Hess cards and high grade cards from 19th century especially. "Once you have wrestled everything else in life is easy" Dan Gable
  • DboneesqDboneesq Posts: 18,219 ✭✭
    Great accomplishment. Enjoy your cards!
    STAY HEALTHY!

    Doug

    Liquidating my collection for the 3rd and final time. Time for others to enjoy what I have enjoyed over the last several decades. Money could be put to better use.
  • So PSA encased a Sweet Brown Sugar card with Koko B Ware's autograph (same guy, I know) and didn't even question it or make a note on the flip?

    Not to be a heel, but I wonder how many of those "autographs" are bogus?
  • wrestlingcardkingwrestlingcardking Posts: 4,555 ✭✭✭✭
    I do not know if I understand your question about an autograph being bogus because he was went by a couple different wrestling names. The autographs both came out of the same hand.
    BUYING Frank Gotch T229 Kopec
    Looking to BUY n332 1889 SF Hess cards and high grade cards from 19th century especially. "Once you have wrestled everything else in life is easy" Dan Gable


  • << <i>I do not know if I understand your question about an autograph being bogus because he was went by a couple different wrestling names. The autographs both came out of the same hand. >>



    To me, it's like Harrison Ford signing a Star Wars Han Solo trading card as "Dr. Richard Kimble." I'm blown away that PSA even touches this stuff. It's a bit more convoluted than, say, Mickey Mantle signing a Mickey Mantle baseball card.

    As for what a true Sweet Brown Sugar autograph looks like (disregard the fact that 99.9% of wrestling fans don't even know that Koko and Sugar are the same guy), god only knows, because nobody at PSA sure the hell does.



  • wrestlingcardkingwrestlingcardking Posts: 4,555 ✭✭✭✭
    Thanks for your perspective but I do not see it this way. A lot of Hollywood celebrities have "stage names" and I do not think for a moment autograph seekers would have an issue with that. They write those autographs so many times it does become a part of them and their identity. I agree there can be some extreme examples of a wrestler changing his name like Cactus Jack, Mankind, Mick Foley, etc which would be a validation for your point. I still think that PSA can authenticate those with little problem though. Some of these wrestlers are pretty much known as one name for their careers or might have held a name for short period of time before having one stick.... I see no issue with it. Thanks for the discussion as it is good to have another perspective.

    To be honest it has not been easy getting all these in red flips. I have been vouchered so many times but I know the autographs are good and I keep at it and keep sending them in and more and more information on this set and autographs are getting out there. I'm still sitting on 21 autographs that I would love to have in red flips but PSA needs to be more educated on the autographs. I can only hope they will be able to slab them later.
    BUYING Frank Gotch T229 Kopec
    Looking to BUY n332 1889 SF Hess cards and high grade cards from 19th century especially. "Once you have wrestled everything else in life is easy" Dan Gable
  • wrestlingcardkingwrestlingcardking Posts: 4,555 ✭✭✭✭
    The 75 cards were taken out of my set on the registry and are just gone and only have the other 33 right now. This sucks as I completed a mixed set. It was bad enough when they took the PSA/DNA out of the pop reports but this really jacks with my set now. Not too happy.
    BUYING Frank Gotch T229 Kopec
    Looking to BUY n332 1889 SF Hess cards and high grade cards from 19th century especially. "Once you have wrestled everything else in life is easy" Dan Gable
  • wrestlingcardkingwrestlingcardking Posts: 4,555 ✭✭✭✭
    This is not my doing but something that PSA has done, why are they taken out of the set? It changed some of my player registries as well by not having them be 100% as well. Grr....
    BUYING Frank Gotch T229 Kopec
    Looking to BUY n332 1889 SF Hess cards and high grade cards from 19th century especially. "Once you have wrestled everything else in life is easy" Dan Gable
  • Well that sucks. Wrestlecardking. Always cool seeing these cards signed.

    Anybody send one in to American Icons signing with Wicked Nick Bockwinkel? found picture of him graphing it
    image
  • Dpeck100Dpeck100 Posts: 10,912 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Rob I am assuming you put a call into PSA or an email into Joe. What was the response?

  • wrestlingcardkingwrestlingcardking Posts: 4,555 ✭✭✭✭
    Have not yet..... will be though!
    BUYING Frank Gotch T229 Kopec
    Looking to BUY n332 1889 SF Hess cards and high grade cards from 19th century especially. "Once you have wrestled everything else in life is easy" Dan Gable
  • spazzyspazzy Posts: 592 ✭✭
    Rob,

    The registry set section is down right now..
  • wrestlingcardkingwrestlingcardking Posts: 4,555 ✭✭✭✭
    I can get into mine right now..... not sure what you mean.
    BUYING Frank Gotch T229 Kopec
    Looking to BUY n332 1889 SF Hess cards and high grade cards from 19th century especially. "Once you have wrestled everything else in life is easy" Dan Gable
  • wrestlingcardkingwrestlingcardking Posts: 4,555 ✭✭✭✭
    Since my red flips are no longer counted in the registry anymore I lost a lot of motivation with this project. I find it frustrating that the rules changed on me.....
    BUYING Frank Gotch T229 Kopec
    Looking to BUY n332 1889 SF Hess cards and high grade cards from 19th century especially. "Once you have wrestled everything else in life is easy" Dan Gable
  • wrestlingcardkingwrestlingcardking Posts: 4,555 ✭✭✭✭
    Navarro is catching me with my one subtraction..........
    BUYING Frank Gotch T229 Kopec
    Looking to BUY n332 1889 SF Hess cards and high grade cards from 19th century especially. "Once you have wrestled everything else in life is easy" Dan Gable
  • thenavarrothenavarro Posts: 7,497 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Navarro is catching me with my one subtraction.......... >>



    Yes, but you have 1500 reasons to smile, LOL
    Buying US Presidential autographs
  • wrestlingcardkingwrestlingcardking Posts: 4,555 ✭✭✭✭
    Well ebay and paypal will have a few of my reasons but they did provide a great service and outlet to sell that Bruiser Brody signed card.... :-)
    BUYING Frank Gotch T229 Kopec
    Looking to BUY n332 1889 SF Hess cards and high grade cards from 19th century especially. "Once you have wrestled everything else in life is easy" Dan Gable
  • wrestlingcardkingwrestlingcardking Posts: 4,555 ✭✭✭✭
    I upgraded my Hogan from a 5 to an 8 and also put SD Jones into the collection. Progress has been non-existent for this set recently so it is a good day.
    BUYING Frank Gotch T229 Kopec
    Looking to BUY n332 1889 SF Hess cards and high grade cards from 19th century especially. "Once you have wrestled everything else in life is easy" Dan Gable
  • wrestlingcardkingwrestlingcardking Posts: 4,555 ✭✭✭✭

    21015794
    NEAR MINT 7
    1982 WRESTLING ALL-STARS-SERIES B 2 TONY GAREA


    21015795
    EXCELLENT-MINT 6
    1982 WRESTLING ALL-STARS-SERIES B 36 DUTCH MANTELL



    21015796
    NEAR MINT+ 7.5
    1983 WRESTLING ALL-STARS 4 SGT. JACQUE GOULET


    21015797
    NEAR MINT 7
    1983 WRESTLING ALL-STARS 7 JIMMY SNUKA



    21015798
    EXCELLENT 5
    1983 WRESTLING ALL-STARS 9 LOU THESZ



    21015799
    EXCELLENT-MINT 6
    1983 WRESTLING ALL-STARS 12 "IRON" MIKE SHARPE


    21015800
    N9: NOT GRADED
    NO GRADE, VOUCHER


    21015801
    EXCELLENT-MINT 6
    1983 WRESTLING ALL-STARS 31 FRED BLASSIE
    BUYING Frank Gotch T229 Kopec
    Looking to BUY n332 1889 SF Hess cards and high grade cards from 19th century especially. "Once you have wrestled everything else in life is easy" Dan Gable
  • eagles33eagles33 Posts: 2,683 ✭✭✭
    Very impressive set. What was the n9. That's my most dreaded thing to see when I check my subs... And with all the random cards I send I get them a lot
    Scans of most of my Misc rookies can be found <a target=new class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://forums.collectors.com/m...y&keyword1=Non%20major">here
  • wrestlingcardkingwrestlingcardking Posts: 4,555 ✭✭✭✭
    Blassie is an improvement of what I had from a 5 to a 6, Goulet had never been red flipped before so I was thrilled with a 7.5, Garea had never been red flipped so I loved getting a 7 on that one as it is a yellow card and those are tough. Also got a Dutch Mantell from a 5 to a 6. Going to put Thesz and Blassie straight into the collection. Had a Lou Thesz 6 but liked this one a bit better and was thinking it would grade the same....oh well.

    I got vouchered on Big John Studd which drives me crazy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Spares now with this poppage is Iron Mike Sharpe PSA/DNA 6, Dutch Mantell PSA/DNA 5, Jimmy Snuka PSA/DNA 7............now I can sell my Goulet PSA 9 and Garea PSA 7.
    BUYING Frank Gotch T229 Kopec
    Looking to BUY n332 1889 SF Hess cards and high grade cards from 19th century especially. "Once you have wrestled everything else in life is easy" Dan Gable
  • Dpeck100Dpeck100 Posts: 10,912 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Keep advancing your set Rob!


    Some nice additions here.
  • thenavarrothenavarro Posts: 7,497 ✭✭✭
    Getting ever closer. So close you can taste it! image

    Mike
    Buying US Presidential autographs
  • Forget it - tried to upload a picture for the first time and it didn't work.

    It's a 1983 Wrestling All-Stars PSA/DNA Lou Thesz PSA 8
  • wrestlingcardkingwrestlingcardking Posts: 4,555 ✭✭✭✭
    Is it available for purchase or trade? image
    BUYING Frank Gotch T229 Kopec
    Looking to BUY n332 1889 SF Hess cards and high grade cards from 19th century especially. "Once you have wrestled everything else in life is easy" Dan Gable
  • wrestlingcardkingwrestlingcardking Posts: 4,555 ✭✭✭✭
    Scans added to the second and third posts in this thread, love the look of my new Blassie, Iron Mike Sharpe, Rene Goulet in a red flip for the first time as well as Tony Garea. In some ways I wish I would have send in some of the obscure guys and hoped for the best but I will have to do it the next time there is a special. Never thought I would red flip so many of these. Now I am hooked!
    BUYING Frank Gotch T229 Kopec
    Looking to BUY n332 1889 SF Hess cards and high grade cards from 19th century especially. "Once you have wrestled everything else in life is easy" Dan Gable
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