Trying to understand how the 1857 Snow 7,8,9 varities were made..any help?

Halfhunter06

I'm having difficulty understanding how they were made. The dies for the Double Eagle were removed, and then the FE dies were put in place..so how could there be a die clash?

savoyspecial

I think it can best be summed up by saying that many shenanigans took place at the Phila. Mint circa 1850's/1860's


Do a Google search for Director James Snowden or Chief Coiner Adam Eckfeldt and you will see what i'm talking about

RichieURich

What Savoyspecial said. They had a lot of help, just like the Wisconsin extra leaf quarters (proven) and possibly the Sacagawea/quarter mules.

EagleEye

The common misconception is that dies clash when there are no planchet between the dies. In fact the dies are spaced so they do not hit each other. If a planchet does not get between the dies, the dies just cycle though without hitting one another. The clashes happen when the dies are being spaced - when dies are being put in. The Flying Eagle cents took up many of the presses in 1857 since they were starting from zero CN cents in circulation. When the dies were installed after making Double Eagles or Quarters or Half Dollars, they clashed during installation.

clackamas

<< <i>The common misconception is that dies clash when there are no planchet between the dies. In fact the dies are spaced so they do not hit each other. If a planchet does not get between the dies, the dies just cycle though without hitting one another. The clashes happen when the dies are being spaced - when dies are being put in. The Flying Eagle cents took up many of the presses in 1857 since they were starting from zero CN cents in circulation. When the dies were installed after making Double Eagles or Quarters or Half Dollars, they clashed during installation. >>



I did not know that, thanks Rick.

seanq

So Rick, does that mean that the tale of Theodore Eckfeldt the precocious night watchman is apocryphal?


Sean Reynolds

Moldnut

Here is the other half for you.

CaptHenway

<< <i>The common misconception is that dies clash when there are no planchet between the dies. In fact the dies are spaced so they do not hit each other. If a planchet does not get between the dies, the dies just cycle though without hitting one another. The clashes happen when the dies are being spaced - when dies are being put in. The Flying Eagle cents took up many of the presses in 1857 since they were starting from zero CN cents in circulation. When the dies were installed after making Double Eagles or Quarters or Half Dollars, they clashed during installation. >>



That remains only a theory.
I prefer the theory that they were deliberate.
Neither theory has been proven or disproven.
TD