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jfoot13

I picked this up at the show today because I thought it was kind of neat.. but for the life of me I can't find it in the krause, any help is appreciated.

thanks
Ken

harasha

You will not find it in Krause as this is a medal celebrating the 300th anniversary of the Reformation.
Around the obverse you find, in translation, A Mighty Fortress is Our God (or something like that).
My German is non-existent, but I am sure that someone here will give you more information.

ormandh

Is it a Martin Luther medal commemorating 300 years? There are a few medals listed, but no pictures. Maybe someone with some German language knowledge can help. Spoon !

ormandh

<< <i>You will not find it in Krause as this is a medal celebrating the 300th anniversary of the Reformation.
Around the obverse you find, in translation, A Mighty Fortress is Our God (or something like that).
My German is non-existent, but I am sure that someone here will give you more information. >>



Ya beat me to it!

spoon

Yep, a token from Frankfurt for the 300th of the Reformation - roughly what the top pic says in the middle: "3rd celebration of the Reformation, 1817". The "A Mighty Fortress is Our God" is the legend on that side (Ein feste Burg ist unser Gott).

Bottom pic center reads roughly - "One Man, one Faith, one Baptism/Christening [ie, one rite], one God and Father of All"

Now here's where my German stinks.. simple context - I believe the legend on the bottom pic refers to an organization? "The Free City of Frankfurt United Evangelical Christians [Protestants]" or something to that effect. Or it could just refer to the sentiment of unity. I barely speak gradeschool level German! But in Germany protestants are typically referred to as "Evangelical Christians" - "evangelical" not acquiring the nearly denominational context it does in America.

3Mark

I collect Frankfurt and there are two different sizes, the one ducat and the two ducat. I have both slabbed by NGC as "silver strikes" of the one and two ducats struck in gold. I have a one ducat in gold, but I have never seen the two ducat. I will try to find my Joseph & Fellner books (the ultimate authority on Frankfurt) to see if they struck a two ducat. Meanwhile, I found a double ducat on MA Shops here In Germany, these are known as "siber abschlags" or silver strikes.

3Mark

Edited to correct spelling of the books.

jfoot13

This is a silver piece. If you happen to run across the reference number of the piece I would appreciate it so I can make the correct notations on the envelope before putting it in " interesting box " I would appreciate it.


Catalog: J.u.F. 1015, Whiting 554
or are these the numbers

thanks
Ken

3Mark

<< <i>This is a silver piece. If you happen to run across the reference number of the piece I would appreciate it so I can make the correct notations on the envelope before putting it in " interesting box " I would appreciate it.


Catalog: J.u.F. 1015, Whiting 554
or are these the numbers

thanks
Ken >>



The J.u.F. is Joseph and Fellner (which I got my copy from Dirk) and Whiting is Collection Whiting, which I don't have, but is used alot by German dealers.

3Mark