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Ticket Collectors, Is this Ticket real ?

Would some of the Ticket collectors mind sharing your knowledge of tickets. I am thinking about getting into collecting these and would like to find out all I can. How easily are these counterfeited ? How can you Tell ?

Can any of the ticket experts tell me if the ticket below is real or not ??

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  • lot of fakes out there...i can't tell unless I'm holding it...paper quality, gloss, smell, etc...

    send to psa....thats your best bet
    Rick Probstein
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  • I don't know if the ticket is real, but the pube at the top of perforation sure looks real.

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  • YogiBerraFanYogiBerraFan Posts: 2,390 ✭✭


    << <i>I don't know if the ticket is real, but the pube at the top of perforation sure looks real.

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  • scashaggyscashaggy Posts: 1,107 ✭✭✭
    I never dreamed that I would climb over the moon in ecstasy...
  • tennesseebankertennesseebanker Posts: 5,433 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I don't know if the ticket is real, but the pube at the top of perforation sure looks real.

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    I wonder if the pube is vintage ?
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  • tennesseebankertennesseebanker Posts: 5,433 ✭✭✭
    Does anyone know a reputable dealer of tickets, raw or slabbed ?
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  • Stone193Stone193 Posts: 24,438 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I do have one suggestion.

    According to the Cycleback web - paper made in the late 40s had optical brighteners put in them - which under black light will fluoresce.

    Since this ticket is 1940 - if you have a black light - hit it in a dark room - if it doesn't fluoresce - it's more likely that it's "period" stock and more than likely good.

    Just a suggestion - I know nothing about this stuff - just about the paper thing since it's very helpful with preWar cards.
    Mike
  • tennesseebankertennesseebanker Posts: 5,433 ✭✭✭
    Thanks Mike, Thats some very useful information.
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  • Stone193Stone193 Posts: 24,438 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Thanks Mike, Thats some very useful information. >>

    You're welcome.

    Here's a scan of early paper compared to modern paper and the how the black light affects it:

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    The period paper is placed on top of the modern paper.
    Mike
  • ICE9ICE9 Posts: 552 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Does anyone know a reputable dealer of tickets, raw or slabbed ? >>



    I've never done business with them, but they a nice inventory of raw and slabbed stubs:

    Chicago Tickets.

    "Must these Englishmen Live That I Might Die? Must They Live That I Might Die?" - The Blue Oyster Cult
  • tennesseebankertennesseebanker Posts: 5,433 ✭✭✭
    Thanks for the link, I have actually been to ChicagoTix and really didnt like the way the web-site was setup. N prices listed anywhere, confusing and cluttered.
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  • the ticket looks good to me, on a few fakes/reprints that I have seen , take a 10X loupe and look on the reverse of the ticket and where the stamp "Allied printing trade's union label council Chicago" will be stamped in solid black ink and very clear on the real ones, on the fakes it will be a dot pattern and unreadable. On the front of the ticket the red printing should be solid red on the fakes a dot pattern.
    the other way is the feel of the paper the fakes I have seen are thinner and more glossy, this I know doesn't help much if you don't have a real one or familiar with tickets from this time frame. can't remember when they switched the paper stock , but I believe that it was in the late 40's early 50's.



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