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Here is an eBay to add to the blocked bidder list: frankmartin1969. He gave me my first ever neutral feedback in 10+ years of dealing on eBay after he bought a card for me from $1.00 and was angry about his $3.00 shipping charge even though it was clearly stated on the BIN, and I ship in a padded envelope with dc. The kicker is he said he should have read the "fine print" on the listing. When anyone with half a brain could see it clearly.
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  • cpamikecpamike Posts: 5,566 ✭✭✭
    Sorry to hear about the neutral. It really doesn't matter what the shipping price was, if you don't like it don't bid...period!!!

    Plus $3 shipping is very reasonable considering the cost of the padded envelope in addition to the delivery confirmation and shipping costs unless he gets all his stuff in a PWE...LOL.

    Don't worry too much about the neutral as I always give eBay sellers with a long history of positive feedback the benefit of the doubt when it comes to shipping cost issues with buyers.
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  • gameusedhoopgameusedhoop Posts: 3,594 ✭✭✭✭
    Here's another to add:
    expensivepicturesofmen

    Bought a Tim Thomas rookie just after the Cup win at the height of the market, never paid, never responded. Doubt I'll be able to resell for the same $$ now that the parade and Vezina Trophy win have passed. Just way too much of this happening lately.

    I just had another guy flake on a lot, and many other sellers left no-pay positives for him too. Relisted, and guess what? Bought by a zero feedback bidder in the same town with a woman's name for $15 less. Been 4 days now and no response, going to file the NPB later and see what happens this time. May just give ebay a call about the blocked bidder end around. Not that it will do any good they'll just say that name on the new account is different. Just way too cimcumstantial for my likes. image
  • MULLINS5MULLINS5 Posts: 4,517 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Here is an eBay to add to the blocked bidder list: frankmartin1969. He gave me my first ever neutral feedback in 10+ years of dealing on eBay after he bought a card for me from $1.00 and was angry about his $3.00 shipping charge even though it was clearly stated on the BIN, and I ship in a padded envelope with dc. The kicker is he said he should have read the "fine print" on the listing. When anyone with half a brain could see it clearly. >>



    Assuming you didn't insure the card as the insurance would cost more than the value of the card itself, then $3 is actually high for shipping.

    That aside, if the cost is clearly listed in the item description then it's worthwhile calling eBay and calmly making your case.

    Hope it works out.


    EDIT: Both added to BBL >>



    I don't think it matters what's inside the padded envelope...$3 isn't too high (IMO).

    $3 for a PWE...eh, now that sucks.
  • storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭

    Bubble Mailer: 20 cents

    3 OZ USPS: $1.71

    PP or stamps.com DC: 19 cents

    USPS DC: 80 cents

    Packing and Tape: 5 cents

    FVF on Mailing Fee paid to EBAY: 36 cents

    .....................................

    $3.00 is a very reasonable mailing charge.

    ..............

    The easiest way to avoid discussing the issue with EBAY's cheapskate
    buyers is to use BINs, add $4.00 to your retail price, and tell the buyers
    that shipping is "free." Obviously, auction sellers cannot easily do that on
    most items, but they can on some items by simply adding $4 to their
    minimum starting price.

    When I sell items that weigh over 13 ounces, I use Priority Mail and add
    the full cost plus $1 to the item price. "Free" shipping is a great feature
    for sellers; been using it for more than 5-years.

    The feature also automatically delivers 5-stars on shipping cost.

    ...............

    For the few folks who dont know:

    If you change the "handling time" on the SYIF to "1 day" and use DC,
    you get an automatic 5-stars on "shipping time." (You must enter the
    DC number manually, unless you use PP shipping. DC numbers are
    auto-uploaded from My EBAY to PP.)


    That means you only have to worry about FAKE SNAD claims; and, star
    dings when you don't "communicate" at length with the crybaby "buyers"
    that now dominate EBAY.








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  • Mickey71Mickey71 Posts: 4,259 ✭✭✭✭
    Bubblebathgirl,
    Listing shows $3 and buyer purchases the card....what's the problem? Why not spin this a little bit....I'll list an auction for $1 shipping and when you buy the card I will send you an invoice with $7 shipping. I decided I wasn"t comfortable shipping your item for $1. That's what the buyer is basically saying in this situation....I'm not comfortable with the price of shipping after the fact. How is anyone ever arguing this point? I've complained about "707" pricing their cards with very high prices; but that does not mean I should go buy one and leave negative feedback based upon his prices being too high.
  • rbdjr1rbdjr1 Posts: 4,474 ✭✭


    frankmartin1969

    I looked and he had around 250 positive feedbacks from sellers over the past few months, and many of his purchases were of the "free shipping variety" or at a very low cost shipping (i.e. 99 cents!). Many of his winnings were used concert tickets & celeb photos, many @ 99 cents (with many of those were free shipping!)...

    This buyer is just spoiled!

    Sometimes it is just hard for these new buyers to justify paying three bucks shipping for a dollar item!

    My guess he didn't read it until after he "pulled the trigger"...

    I wouldn't block him, I would send him a friendly message letting him know that you take pride in delivering cards in a bubble mailer, which costs extra, and him being a newbie, "dishing out neutrals" to good sellers like yourself, who work really hard to deliver "well-packaged, quality items" is just not cool!

    Further explain if he buys multiple items you can combine shipping for him and maybe next time he can get multiple cards from you for around three bucks shipping image

    This buyer seems to be a very good payer and bought plenty of items since joining "fee-bay" a couple of months ago! Cultivate buyers like this through friendly communication! You can sell plenty of items to buyers like this, maybe for many years?

    He wants low cost shipping? Well, make him great deals for multiple items.

    rd

    I too have been doing business on fee-bay for well over 11 years, and I do not think I ever got a neutral, and I would take it very personally too! It sucks! (Just "lose the battle, but win the war!" LOL!)
  • Mickey71Mickey71 Posts: 4,259 ✭✭✭✭
    I come up with $3.12... .20, 1.71, .80, .05, .36................Maybe my calculator is broken. Also, the only .20 bubble envelopes you're getting are when you buy in bulk.
  • DboneesqDboneesq Posts: 18,219 ✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Here is an eBay to add to the blocked bidder list: frankmartin1969. He gave me my first ever neutral feedback in 10+ years of dealing on eBay after he bought a card for me from $1.00 and was angry about his $3.00 shipping charge even though it was clearly stated on the BIN, and I ship in a padded envelope with dc. The kicker is he said he should have read the "fine print" on the listing. When anyone with half a brain could see it clearly. >>



    Assuming you didn't insure the card as the insurance would cost more than the value of the card itself, then $3 is actually high for shipping. >>


    BBG ... when someone wins a single card from you on eBay for $2.99, what do you charge for shipping?
    STAY HEALTHY!

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  • rbdjr1rbdjr1 Posts: 4,474 ✭✭


    here's a good idea;

    instead of bubble mailers, try those 6 x 9 manila envelopes (I get them at the $1 store for: $1.00 + 0.06 for 8, or about 13 cents each. I then recycle plastic bags, using 2 bags (stuffing one bag on each side of the card saver or holder, stuffed in the 6 x 9 envelope!) thus, making my own mailer, quickly for about 13 cents a rap!

    So a card in a plastic card holder or a card saver and then placed into my homemade "plastic-bag, stuffed mailer", works just fine for me this past year! (weighs about 2 oz. @ $1.75 shipping, plus 13 cents, plus fee-bay fees, not a bad deal! And they do work great!)

    rd
  • rexvosrexvos Posts: 3,316 ✭✭✭✭✭
    let me add that I sent the seller a note after he left my neutral. I sent in a bubble mailer, with dc, well packed. actual shipping cost $2.51 before the cost of the bubble mailer. He responded back that he has the right to leave whatever feedback he wants. I blocked him and posted here, so others can make sure they avoid him.
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  • DboneesqDboneesq Posts: 18,219 ✭✭
    I agree with you 100% that $3.00 is a fair price to charge to send one card. I was just confused why you told the OP that the $3.00 he charged was high.
    STAY HEALTHY!

    Doug

    Liquidating my collection for the 3rd and final time. Time for others to enjoy what I have enjoyed over the last several decades. Money could be put to better use.
  • otwcardsotwcards Posts: 5,291 ✭✭✭


    << <i>We charge $3 for 1 PSA graded card and it costs us $2.97 postage to send the card. We insure every item we send via eBay. Add the cost of the bubble mailer, the fragile sticker we put on every one of our packages we send, the adhesive label, the 8.5 x 11 paper we wrap the card in and we're easily spending over $3 to ship one card.

    In summary, we lose money in shipping for everything we send, and we're fine with this. We like providing, what we consider, an appropriate shipping solution at a bargain price. >>



    When "we" clap for ourselves, how many hands are clapping? I'm guessing two and that perhaps you suffer from "Bruces" complex...
  • DboneesqDboneesq Posts: 18,219 ✭✭


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    << <i>I agree with you 100% that $3.00 is a fair price to charge to send one card. I was just confused why you told the OP that the $3.00 he charged was high. >>





    It's high because the value of the item being sent is so low. >>



    But your card selling for $2.99 is an expensive enough card to justify a shipping charge of $3.00? Off to bed. Not looking to get into a pissing match, but just does not seem logical that it is not fair to charge $3.00 for a $1.00 card but it IS fair to charge $3.00 for a $2.99 card.
    STAY HEALTHY!

    Doug

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  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,755 ✭✭✭✭✭
    just does not seem logical that it is not fair to charge $3.00 for a $1.00 card but it IS fair to charge $3.00 for a $2.99 card.

    Doug has a point here...


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  • brendanb438brendanb438 Posts: 1,595 ✭✭✭
    The we at BBG is beyond damn annoying. I find it hilarious that it is cool for "we" to charge $3 to ship something under $5 but that it is so wrong for others and that we all should be shipping stuff at a loss so we can be as cool as "we".


    Really stop referring to yourself as we. Do you think you are like Borg or something?
  • hammeredhammered Posts: 2,671 ✭✭✭
    BBG you're responding as if every ebay buyer feels ripped off when he is charged $3 shipping for an item that only costs $2.51 to ship. Vast majority of buyers (99.9%) won't do what this douchebag did (especially when the item is only .99)
    The OP doesn't need to adjust his shipping - his price is reasonable. He's just posting here to warn us about one of those 1 in 1000 buyers who will probably find a reason to leave a non-positive FB in any way they can because that is the power that ebay gives them. And since these buyers are all losers in their non-ebay lives, they leave neutrals and negs to exercise the only real power they have in their miserable existence.
    But you never lower your shipping cost and lose money on transactions, simply to avoid a neutral from an occasional ebay loser.

    To the OP: I had a similar situation last summer - I had zero neutral or negs in a decade. Then a buyer of a $3 book leaves a neutral and the comment "The books are great - thanks". I guess since I didn't hand-deliver the item and give her a back massage, it didn't quite earn positive feedback.

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  • rexvosrexvos Posts: 3,316 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>

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    << <i>I agree with you 100% that $3.00 is a fair price to charge to send one card. I was just confused why you told the OP that the $3.00 he charged was high. >>





    It's high because the value of the item being sent is so low. >>



    But your card selling for $2.99 is an expensive enough card to justify a shipping charge of $3.00? Off to bed. Not looking to get into a pissing match, but just does not seem logical that it is not fair to charge $3.00 for a $1.00 card but it IS fair to charge $3.00 for a $2.99 card. >>




    It's not logical ... and neither are many people. So it's about adapting to how you can anticipate people will react. If the OP got unfavorable feedback because of his shipping cost, then he needs to have lower shipping costs.

    Or perhaps the OP could offer different shipping methods and let the buyer decide ... perhaps PWE for $1, bubble mailer for $2.50 - there are lots of good options. >>



    actually the original poster got poor feedback because the person that bought the card with the clear shipping costs listed was an unreasonable idiot. I was just warning everyone, your argument makes no sense.
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  • I just want to thank the OP as I have now added frankmartin1969 to my BBL. this clown has left 20 negs & 4 neutrals out of 185 or 13% of the deals he has done he didn't like.
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    3.00 is very reasonable for a single card. because out of that 3.00 dollars.

    Paypal gets .09 cents
    feebay gets .27 cents
    post office gets 2.51

    grand total 2.87 which leaves .13 cents for the bubble mailer & your time and tape & invoice ect ect. Now factor in the card only sold for 1.00 for a grand total 4.00 - 2.87 = 1.13-.20 cent bubble mailer = .93 - .30 cents paypal transaction fee = .63- .10 ebay listing fee = .53 cents minus whatever the card cost actually goes to the seller for all his time and trouble only to get an idiot that can't read how much Shipping is and leaves a neutral or even worse a negative.

    Please don't say the buyer has a right to complain about shipping if you don't like what the seller is charging don't bid or buy from that seller also learn how to read.
    if the buyer wants to complain , complain to greedy ebay for charging 9% for shipping and paypal for 2.9% for shipping.

    Ebay needs to allow sellers to leave negatives again for buyers. crybabies and scam artists have/are taking over ebay. jmho
  • BunkerBunker Posts: 3,926
    frankmartin1969 has only been on ebay since April of this year and he has already left 185 neg/neu feedbacks!

    Here is an example of one of the negatives he has left:

    Have not Received yet on 5-22-11 - Paid on 4-30-11 - 3.49 - shipping was 2.50

    If he hasn't received this item yet, how does he know the shipping was only $2.50?


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  • brendanb438brendanb438 Posts: 1,595 ✭✭✭


    << <i>frankmartin1969 has only been on ebay since April of this year and he has already left 185 neg/neu feedbacks!

    Here is an example of one of the negatives he has left:

    Have not Received yet on 5-22-11 - Paid on 4-30-11 - 3.49 - shipping was 2.50

    If he hasn't received this item yet, how does he know the shipping was only $2.50?


    Blocked >>




    Yeah this is a good catch. I hope the seller pointed that out to eBay. Sad thing is an eBay rep would probably just be like, well um, sorry can't help ya and then a PayPal rep would be like well we are giving him a refund. Derf, Derf, Derf.
  • mcadamsmcadams Posts: 2,618 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>We charge $3 for 1 PSA graded card and it costs us $2.97 postage to send the card. We insure every item we send via eBay. Add the cost of the bubble mailer, the fragile sticker we put on every one of our packages we send, the adhesive label, the 8.5 x 11 paper we wrap the card in and we're easily spending over $3 to ship one card.

    In summary, we lose money in shipping for everything we send, and we're fine with this. We like providing, what we consider, an appropriate shipping solution at a bargain price. >>



    When "we" clap for ourselves, how many hands are clapping? I'm guessing two and that perhaps you suffer from "Bruces" complex... >>



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