Anyone deal with this Ebayer for unopned material
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Hi folks.
Anyone here buy unopened packs from Ebayer: tbine. He/she has a good rating and feedback and sells unopened stuff.
Anyone here buy unopened packs from Ebayer: tbine. He/she has a good rating and feedback and sells unopened stuff.
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<< <i>Hi folks.
Anyone here buy unopened packs from Ebayer: tbine. He/she has a good rating and feedback and sells unopened stuff. >>
www.bbcexchange.com is the only place to shop
WTB: PSA 1 - PSA 3 Centered, High Eye Appeal 1950's Mantle
Steve Hart.
BBCE
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If something is "not right," no worries; Hart will make it right.
Buying from strangers on EBAY is just not worth the risk.
There was a time I would've also bought from the BBCardKid - Mark Murphy - but he's pretty much out of that business after a fire in his warehouse.
I still has a webpage but there's nothing much there IMO.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
"you are bidding on 1 1979 topps wax pack.this pack contains 10 cards and 1 sticker.this pack is in near mint condition."
Nowhere does it say that this is an unopened pack.
It contains 10 cards and 1 sticker.
The pack is in near mint condition (according to his standards).
<< <i>I concur. There was a time I would've also bought from the BBCardKid - Mark Murphy - but he's pretty much out of that business after a fire in his warehouse. I still has a webpage but there's nothing much there IMO. >>
And do you see his price for an ungraded NM/MT 1987 Fleer Barry Bonds????? $19.00
Doug
Liquidating my collection for the 3rd and final time. Time for others to enjoy what I have enjoyed over the last several decades. Money could be put to better use.
<< <i>His listings are misleading, but there is nothing "wrong" with them.
"you are bidding on 1 1979 topps wax pack.this pack contains 10 cards and 1 sticker.this pack is in near mint condition."
Nowhere does it say that this is an unopened pack.
It contains 10 cards and 1 sticker.
The pack is in near mint condition (according to his standards). >>
I would disagree with this statement. A pack that has been opened previously and resealed, is NOT near mint. Splitting hairs on listing accuracy is dubious at best. A card that has been trimmed can still be considered MINT condition, but is not what the person is trying to get across in the misleading listing.
That being said, NEVER buy any unopened material on ebay...EVER!! Not even 1988 Donruss
I hope you were just kidding around.
I'm new to this board and I'm sure considered a outsider, but I kind of chuckle when I see a post like this. I know immediately everyone will start saying to only buy from BBCE. I think it is fine to tell everyone here they are reputable, on the other hand I have read where they (unknowingly) sold packs that were resealed also. I also know they immediately took care of the problem and refunded. This shows they are a trying to run a good operation and keep there customers happy.
But if they are the only one we can buy from then I guess they are the only we can sell to, now they corner the market. I have over 50 cases of factory sealed wax and racks most of which I bought factory direct, plus other boxes of high end product like 93 SP, 93 Finest and 96 Leaf signature. I would hope if I decided to sell my options wouldn't be limited to BBCE.
Paul
<< <i>That being said, NEVER buy any unopened material on ebay...EVER!! Not even 1988 Donruss >>
I hope you were just kidding around.
I'm new to this board and I'm sure considered a outsider, but I kind of chuckle when I see a post like this. I know immediately everyone will start saying to only buy from BBCE. I think it is fine to tell everyone here they are reputable, on the other hand I have read where they (unknowingly) sold packs that were resealed also. I also know they immediately took care of the problem and refunded. This shows they are a trying to run a good operation and keep there customers happy.
But if they are the only one we can buy from then I guess they are the only we can sell to, now they corner the market. I have over 50 cases of factory sealed wax and racks most of which I bought factory direct, plus other boxes of high end product like 93 SP, 93 Finest and 96 Leaf signature. I would hope if I decided to sell my options wouldn't be limited to BBCE.
Paul >>
sealed cases on ebay are fine. boxes? not so much, especially anything issued from when there are "hits" in the packs
WTB: PSA 1 - PSA 3 Centered, High Eye Appeal 1950's Mantle
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<< <i>Hi folks.
Anyone here buy unopened packs from Ebayer: tbine. He/she has a good rating and feedback and sells unopened stuff. >>
If you're asking then you shouldn't. Good of you to ask.
Steve Hart is the best way to go. >>
we agree with you
<< <i>That being said, NEVER buy any unopened material on ebay...EVER!! Not even 1988 Donruss >>
I hope you were just kidding around.
I'm new to this board and I'm sure considered a outsider, but I kind of chuckle when I see a post like this. I know immediately everyone will start saying to only buy from BBE. I think it is fine to tell everyone here they are reputable, on the other hand I have read where they (unknowingly) sold packs that were resealed also. I also know they immediately took care of the problem and refunded. This shows they are a trying to run a good operation and keep there customers happy.
But if they are the only one we can buy from then I guess they are the only we can sell to, now they corner the market.
I have over 50 cases of factory sealed wax and racks most of which I bought factory direct, plus other boxes of high end product like 93 SP, 93 Finest and 96 Leaf signature. I would hope if I decided to sell my options wouldn't be limited to BBE.
Paul >>
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Your point on "cornering the market" has some academic merit.
But, the OP asked his question from the viewpoint of a potential
buyer/victim.
Obviously, sellers can try to sell their items to anybody they wish.
They are not forced to sell to BBCE, but it is prolly often easier to
do so than to try to convince cautious retail-buyers that the material
is "good."
Because buyers KNOW that if BBCE makes a mistake, Hart will solve
the problem, it does not make sense to "gamble" on retail purchases
from EBAY strangers. In that sense, BBCE could be said to have "cornered
the market," but they did it by making certain that their customers don't
get hurt.
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Re: "Not even 1988 Donruss."
I have seen packs of Desert Storm/Desert Shield cards - which
have no substantial value - resealed.
Avoiding unslabbed packs/boxes from EBAY strangers is sort of
a no brainer; especially for folks who are not "experts."
Paul
have no substantial value - resealed"
----possibly the funniest words ever uttered on a message board. no way. no friggin way. paranoid. or. that poor sumbtch who actually took the time to reseal the 'desert storm' packs deserves praise for actually stooping that low.
BBG ? glad you to see you realized that when, well, strange to say, when trying to make people think you are a chick, you can't go so far as attempting to portay your own version of a chick. The 'we' thing, I see you sitting there, at yur computer, doing the 'I'm fooling these people, I'z a chick to them, I must act like a chick, and write like a chick.. thing. But your version of a 'chick' is some dainty, well manored, freakish english speaking chick thing. Do you actaully know, or ever talk to any, like real live chicks ? They can be quite cool, and not so prim and proper as you see them. They are soft also. Try one ?
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But I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep,
And miles to go before I sleep."
"Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans."
Collecting:
Any unopened Baseball cello and rack packs and boxes from the 1970's and early 1980s.
<< <i>I'm new to this board and I'm sure considered a outsider >>
Hi Paul.
Your opinion - POV - input is just as valuable as someone who has - say - 17,591 posts.
When people espouse the virtues of BBCEx - it may seem directive but they're just tryin' to make a point about being extra careful IMO.
<< <i>I see multiple packs of same product on BBCE site. Some are slabbed, some are not. So the unslabbed ones are not good enough for grading? >>
Steve will usually buy them already slabbed I believe,
But I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep,
And miles to go before I sleep."
"Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans."
Collecting:
Any unopened Baseball cello and rack packs and boxes from the 1970's and early 1980s.
<< <i>I have over 50 cases of factory sealed wax and racks most of which I bought factory direct, plus other boxes of high end product like 93 SP, 93 Finest and 96 Leaf signature. I would hope if I decided to sell my options wouldn't be limited to BBCE. >>
Heck no, one option is here on these fine boards! I'll take a box of each.haha. Actually, if you do have sealed cases of this stuff, post the pic and we can do a group rip. I'm sure you'll have interested people. HOWEVER, you'll have to build a reputation delivering quality material beforehand, so start with your 89 Upper Deck and 90 Leaf first.
As far as BBCEx, it's the most reputable, quality and smoothest transaction anyone can make. He's trusted and rightfully so. TO answer the questions about grade/ungraded through BBCEx...who do you think PSA goes through?
Toro, I haven't decided if I will sell any product yet. This board has opened my eyes to the pitfalls though. I have read many stories where people questioned whether the packs they purchased had been searched. If someone gets damaged cards or not many stars the first thing they fear is a searched pack. I don't want to open myself up to that kind of stuff. Plus I know it seems lazy, I would rather be slapped up side the head than deal with my local Post Office and those long lines. I will continue to read this forum and I'm sure If I decide to sell anything in the future It could all be worked out.
Thanks
Paul
I've bought 84 opc hockey, 88 fleer basketball. If the feedback is 99 or 100%, and you see 5 or 10 packs in the feedback that have gotten good ratings, its probably legit.
I don't collect unopened hockey packs so I can't speak directly to that, but there is absolutely no question that the vast majority of ungraded unopened baseball packs on ebay are resealed or otherwise tampered with. I believe Steve Hart once estimated that at least 70% of the raw packs for sale on ebay are garbage, and I'd say that the percentage may even be higher than that.
Edit to add: The problem with looking at feedback to gauge a seller's trustworthiness, as I believe Summerof68 has already pointed out in other threads about this topic, is that even the notorious resealers usually have very good feedback because they fool many inexperienced collectors and the collectors who know who these scammers are just avoid their auctions altogether. In addition, the unopened collectors who buy from these thieves may very well keep their packs unopened and never find out firsthand that their packs are no good, or worse yet, they will sell the tainted product themselves to other unsuspecting collectors.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.