One of my favorite sets - 1952 Topps
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I picked this one up recently - my goal is to try and find nicely centered cards. I will never finish the set - I just like the design.
I don't know if anyone else has a small focus that doesn't involve completion of a set but just like to pickup copies from time to time.
I wish there was more interest in games and pins - I'm pretty much a man without a country.
Mike
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Edited to add: He's looking really perty....nice rouge on those cheeks as well
<< <i>Nice card, Mike. Sherman has some real nice lipstick too. >>
I was wonder what the heck was goin' on with that? Thanx Barry.
I guess the photos were retouched?
If you like seeing well centered slabbed 1952s, maybe the member 'Piggs' can scan some of his.
Looks good. We are on the same page with these 52 cards. We don’t need to complete the set to appreciate the character and personality some of these cards really have. I stay in the PSA 5, actually 5.5 is my favorite, centered yet still affordable.
Check out ol Gus here, belting all those homers.
I recently sent Sy Berger a TTM auto request with some cash. He mailed back my signed photo AND the money. The request letter was signed “It’s my pleasure" Sy Berger. Hats off to Sy Berger and Woody Gelman.
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<< <i>Nice card, Mike. Sherman has some real nice lipstick too. >>
I was wonder what the heck was goin' on with that? Thanx Barry.
I guess the photos were retouched? >>
The cards in the set are actually paintings done from a photograph. The artist's name was Gerry Dvorak. Dvorak also did the 53's. It wasnt until 54 they used the actual photographs for the cards. Why they did paintings and not the actual pictures is beyond me.
hi, that old label 7, looks like an 7.5 or higher !!
crack it out and resubmit !!
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<< <i>Nice card, Mike. Sherman has some real nice lipstick too. >>
I was wonder what the heck was goin' on with that? Thanx Barry.
I guess the photos were retouched? >>
The cards in the set are actually paintings done from a photograph. The artist's name was Gerry Dvorak. Dvorak also did the 53's. It wasnt until 54 they used the actual photographs for the cards. Why they did paintings and not the actual pictures is beyond me. >>
Thanx Barry.
I was being rhetorical - I don't understand the reasoning either.
Dvorak did some beautiful work!
Scott - I don't think so - but thanx for the suggestion.
Ralph - I feel ya!
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Looks good. We are on the same page with these 52 cards. We don’t need to complete the set to appreciate the character and personality some of these cards really have. I stay in the PSA 5, actually 5.5 is my favorite, centered yet still affordable.
Check out ol Gus here, belting all those homers.
I recently sent Sy Berger a TTM auto request with some cash. He mailed back my signed photo AND the money. The request letter was signed “It’s my pleasure" Sy Berger. Hats off to Sy Berger and Woody Gelman.
Mertz >>
Very nice card Mertz! Don't have Gus - will tho - I like the card.
Nick - I've watched his cards when he posts - he's the "real" 52T collector on the boards.
<< <i>That 1952 set will never catch on. Things are just too big for most of the standard holders. >>
Now that's funny!
Always looking for Mantle cards such as Stahl Meyer, 1954 Dan Dee, 1959 Bazooka, 1960 Post, 1952 Star Cal Decal, 1952 Tip Top Bread Labels, 1953-54 Briggs Meat, and other Topps, Bowman, and oddball Mantles.
<< <i>Legendary Auctions is auctioning the entire set card by card in PSA 8 on May 25-26. I got the mini-catalog today. wonder who consigned this? >>
There was a set in 8 that was flipped a couple of times and each one made out well - I wonder if it's the same set?
Ya not gonna find many 8 sets around.
<< <i>Why they did paintings and not the actual pictures is beyond me. >>
Player photos that Topps acquired from the teams were in black and white, and Topps wanted the cards to be in color. Or so I've read.
getting centered, I have just as many with a tilt than OC I think. I do have some games too but you already have the ones I do and in better shape, LOL. Doug
I have been working on a graded and raw low grade, but well centered set for a while now. Sometimes I will settle if the price is right for something a little o/c. I have just a sprinkling of hi numbers, which are a real bear to find centered and for a realistic price. I am in no rush to get any of them graded at this point. One of my favorite topps issues by far along with 53 topps I am working on in the same fashion.
here are some red sox for your enjoyment
of course one of my other favorites since we are talking 52's, not the most beautiful but in my eyes much better than a one! Condition is not important to me on the autos
Here's a collage of some of the cards I've picked up over the years - as some may know - I'm never in a hurry and try to get nicely centered fairly priced copies.
This has got to be one of the most "tilted" OC sets on the planet! But a pure classic
Mike, if you ever have a chance I would love to see bigger scans of just the Tommy Brown and Howie Fox. They look pretty darn nice.
I'm partial to the purple background cards.
I'll check Nick - if I can't find the file - I'll rescan. My recollection is that one of them was "over" graded.
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The Fox is a weak 7 IMO. I missed the stain on the scan on ebay - but I picked it up so reasonable - I was happy.
I was always under the impression that the 52's were done using the Flexicolor process. The 53's are certainly paintings, but the 52's look like photos that have been 'colorized'. I found a nice article on it here.
This certainly looks like what was done with the 52's. But perhaps I am mistaken. Wouldn't be the first time.
Sam
Let me start with Official Radio Baseball Game - it's a neat game produced by Toy Creations, 1939. Prices for the game vary from around 50 to as high as 100+ for the game.
The game was "reissued" in the early 1940s as Pro-Baseball Game - then the rights were sold to Pressman who repackaged the game - still in the 1940s - I believe - as Broadcast Baseball.
Finding one in good condition with all the pieces at a fair price is a bit of a challenge.
The next game I'd like to discuss is a favorite of mine: Parker Brothers - Peg Baseball - 1908
This game comes in quite a few variations - e.g. a Blue border, green border and yellow border - some have the little ship logo on the lower right and some don't.
The "green border" you have is - I believe - more scarce than some of the other color variations.
This is another game that was morphed by PB's over the years - there's a version of Peg BB in the late 30s, early 40s, again in the 50s and the last iteration was in 1961. Tho, the games are not statistically the same.
Like other games - the prices realized on ebay are all over the place - depending on the condition and completeness of the game - to be honest - I don't know if anyone knows exactly how many pegs should be present - but one should also have the dice and dice holder. I've seen the game go for as little as 40 bucks and as high as 140.
There was a "green" version just recently in good shape that I bid on - and didn't make reserve - I contacted him for a "BIN" but he hasn't gotten back to me.
Pretty much these games are that of "chance" based on sports statistics. Peg BB relies on single and double die rules - depending on which version one has.
<< <i>Thanks Mike I do appreciate it. I also have "Official Radio Football Game" with similar graphics. Thanks for all your knowledge on these, below is a photo inside the Peg Baseball game. Doug
Looks pretty good Doug - do you have the dice?
On the Pitch and Hit - 1940s - Milton Bradley - it's a simple game of one player selecting a pitch while the hitter player "gambles" on whether to swing or not by using the spinner.
It comes up on ebay from time to time - and is relatively inexpensive - I paid like 20 bucks. Book values on these game - IMO - are not reliable - if anything out of date.
One of the best books on games - as a simple reference is by Mark Cooper but I think his values are way too high on many games.
I have the Parker Bros Baseball Game- circa 1950 - but don't have much to say about it. I have never tried to play the game to see what it's all about - perhaps it's time for me to take it and look at it closer?
BTW - I have seen some really high "BINs" on some games like the original Peg Baseball - but they'll just collect dust at those prices IMO.
I don't collect FB games - so I really can't comment on them.
They look really cool tho - many of these games are in similar BB, FB and Bkb formats.
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<< <i>The cards in the set are actually paintings done from a photograph. The artist's name was Gerry Dvorak. Dvorak also did the 53's. It wasnt until 54 they used the actual photographs for the cards. Why they did paintings and not the actual pictures is beyond me.
I was always under the impression that the 52's were done using the Flexicolor process. The 53's are certainly paintings, but the 52's look like photos that have been 'colorized'. I found a nice article on it here.
This certainly looks like what was done with the 52's. But perhaps I am mistaken. Wouldn't be the first time.
Sam >>
I was going to respond with the same information as I always understood the 52 Topps were black and white photos that were "colorized". Looking at the 52's and then the 53's it seems obvious to me that the 53's are clearly paintings but the 52's appear to be color-touched photos.
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Fleer Baseball-1923, 1959-2007
Al