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As soon as I get the cash from the sale of my house

BearBear Posts: 18,953 ✭✭✭
I shall put the bulk of the money in a conservative Vanguard fund,

that has produced dividends of 5% for a decade.The fund is about

60% bonds of various sorts, 30% stock and 10% liquid cash investments.

I will purchase at least 20 ounces of gold using AGEs and perhaps

a few 100 ounce bars of silver.

At that point, I shall sit back, enjoy my retirement and watch

the future unfold as it may. Perhaps overly conservative, but prudent

for a fuzzy old bear.
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  • JCMhoustonJCMhouston Posts: 5,306 ✭✭✭
  • JulioJulio Posts: 2,501
    image Take care. jws
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  • ChrisRxChrisRx Posts: 5,619 ✭✭✭✭
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  • ChrisRxChrisRx Posts: 5,619 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I will purchase at least 20 ounces of gold using AGEs and perhaps >>



    image Are you not fearful of a "Bear" market?

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  • RedHerringRedHerring Posts: 2,077
    Regardless of what people do with their money, they should be at peace.

    Sounds like a fine move Bear and I hope you enjoy it! image
  • ChrisRxChrisRx Posts: 5,619 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Regardless of what people do with their money, they should be at peace.

    Sounds like a fine move Bear and I hope you enjoy it! image >>



    Yet, but it can get unBEARable.

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  • edmundfitzgeraldedmundfitzgerald Posts: 4,306 ✭✭
    My dad just sold over 600k of his company stock, and he did exactly the same thing. He too has been a wise ol' bear
    all his life. Good decision Bear.
  • KUCHKUCH Posts: 1,186
    A safe fund earning 5 % dividends........ is like a Bear taking a short hybernation break. image Good for you!
  • ajmanajman Posts: 1,359 ✭✭✭
    Where are you going to live, in a den in the woods?
    Beer is Proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy -Benjamin Franklin-
  • BearBear Posts: 18,953 ✭✭✭
    I received a few PMs on what the mutual Fund choices were

    that I made. OK here they are:

    Bulk of money in Vanguard Strategy Fund (VASIX)

    Vanguard Health Care Fund (VGHAX) 25,000

    Vanguard Extended Market index (VEXAX) 25,000
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  • BearBear Posts: 18,953 ✭✭✭
    As one becomes older, severe loses from investments become almost impossible to restore.

    Therefor more conservative investments, while restricting potential profit, also will prevent

    severe loses. To be sure, If all hell breaks loose, nothing I can do will save me. I like to believe

    that things will not get as bad as some of us fear. I guess the gold and silver will be my disaster fund.
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  • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,082 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Where are you going to live, in a den in the woods? >>



    I was thinking a den on the beach.
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  • BearBear Posts: 18,953 ✭✭✭
    Actually I only moved to a senior living residence two miles away

    from my home. This Residence provide three great meals a day,

    has nursing staff and plenty of trained staff to help if needed.

    It is really more like a very fancy hotel but with really old residents.

    The important thing is that it relieves me of many obligations and provides

    a peaceful and serene atmosphere with medical assistance, when and if it

    is necesary. Now I can spend my time on the Forum finding out how to become

    a millionaire.
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  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,847 ✭✭✭✭✭
    A sound plan Bear. Sleeping weight is were it's at. Enjoy...............MJ
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    Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
  • Bayard1908Bayard1908 Posts: 4,046 ✭✭✭✭
    Bonds are a disaster waiting to happen.
  • jsfjsf Posts: 1,889
    best of luck on the house sale and moving forward.

    I'm trying to sell several pieces of real estate. My spinal cord injuries will never get better and I'm facing "the move" too. I don't know what turns my collecting may take after that.

    hang in there, Bear.
  • BearBear Posts: 18,953 ✭✭✭
    Actually, In addition to the investments, I plan to pay off 100% of all debt

    and even begin nibbling at rare coins again. In for a penny, in for a pound.image
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  • derrybderryb Posts: 36,793 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Buy a thoughtful, inexpensive gift for everyone that loves you. A thank you gesture is always a pleasant surprise and appreciated.

    Inflation (devaluation) will now be your biggest enemy. Do what you can to protect yourself. Preservation of "wealth" is primary, profit is secondary.

    Be aware of all (if any) tax implications with the sale of and non-replacement of the house. Last house I sold was 15 years ago, so I'm completely in the dark with that.

    "Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey

  • BearBear Posts: 18,953 ✭✭✭
    Taking the 500,00 exclusion for married couples plus the improvements

    made to the house over 40 years plus the initial cost, left a profit that at

    15% will cost me 70,000 dollars in taxes. I am not sure when I will have to make

    that payment, but I will not be gambling with that money. It goes in the bank no

    matter how small the rate of interest may be.



    As to preservation of wealth, because of my medical condition, I do not have the luxury of

    a long time line for investments. Thus, my most conservative approach to the problem thru

    Mutual Funds, cash in the bank,elimination of debt, gold and silver as well as a few select rare coins that I hope

    to purchase. The comment on bonds may well be true, but I do not believe that the Government

    can afford to allow interest rates to explode upwards. Such a development would present extreme

    pressure on the already out of balance budget, as well as crushing the value of all Federal, municipal,

    commercial bonds and higher risk high income bonds.



    In today's environment, there is no truly safe formula for capital preservation. All we can do is to diversify

    in a manner that perhaps will minimize the worst of what is to come.
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  • GrumpyEdGrumpyEd Posts: 4,749 ✭✭✭
    Did you leave something out? image

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    << <i>I shall put the bulk of the money in a conservative Vanguard fund,

    that has produced dividends of 5% for a decade.The fund is about

    60% bonds of various sorts, 30% stock and 10% liquid cash investments.

    I will purchase at least 20 ounces of gold using AGEs and perhaps

    a few 100 ounce bars of silver.

    a few dozen jelly donuts.

    At that point, I shall sit back, enjoy my retirement and watch

    the future unfold as it may. Perhaps overly conservative, but prudent

    for a fuzzy old bear. >>

    Ed
  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Very sound planning Bear.... best of luck... Cheers, RickO
  • jmski52jmski52 Posts: 22,824 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Regarding bonds.................

    Every now & then, there is an article that highlights the relationship between the rate of inflation and the rate on 10 year Treasuries. This relationship known as "the real interest rate".

    I'm a believer.

    When the rate on 10 year Treasuries falls below the rate of inflation, the "real interest rate" falls below zero, i.e. it goes negative. When this happens, precious metals always rise, or remain rising. At the same time, bond prices react in the opposite direction (as interest rates rise).

    This is why figuring out the real rate of inflation is absolutely critical to knowing whether to invest in gold & silver vs. bonds. And the government always lies about inflation.

    The government has a self-interest in making bond returns look better than they really are, relative to inflation. Over the years, the government has changed the methodology for calculating the rate of inflation, and in each case - the new bias in reporting inflation is to make inflation seem lower than it really is, which makes government bonds look like a better deal than they really are.

    If inflation is higher than bond yields, bonds are a common trap. If rates stay low and you keep the bonds, you get a constant payout but the payout is worth less and less. And if rates do increase your principal is attacked.

    Today is no different. I don't know if I'll ever put money into bonds or a bond fund again. For me, this wouldn't change regardless of my time horizon. There is a price for a fixed rate of return. Whenever the inflation rate exceeds the rate on 10-year Treasuries, bonds have a built-in penalty - and in this environment I don't see the potential for an upside. Just my 2 cents.

    I do like the fact that you are buffering your bonds with a precious metals component.

    Good luck either way, Bear.
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  • BearBear Posts: 18,953 ✭✭✭
    If one looks at the three Mutual funds picked, it comes out to a mix

    of about 50%/50% stocks vrs bonds. Add in the PMs and rare coins

    and the mix is not as top heavy in bonds as one might first suspect.

    While most of us recognize, that we face a future of drastic change,

    no one is sure, exactly, what direction that change will move in. While I

    am uncomfortable with stocks as well as bonds, one ,must place money

    somewhere, rather then leave it in the bank and watch its value erode

    on a daily basis.


    I do believe ,the jelly donut investment, will provide some measure of

    satisfaction, if only in my tummy.
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  • BearBear Posts: 18,953 ✭✭✭
    OK, I have just started my new purchases of jaw dropping coins from Michael Prince at Harlen Burk Co.

    This collection will probably not exceed 8-10 coins but each will represent an example of coin series

    I find esthetically beautiful. As soon as the coins are received and payed for, I will post them to the coin

    Forum.These coins may not be the most expensive examples, but they will be extraordinary in appearance.image

    After IO have the coins in hand, I will give you all my opinion of the coin and specifically why I purchased each

    particular coin.
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  • 57loaded57loaded Posts: 4,967 ✭✭✭
    good luck wise old bear

    Churchill quotes


  • << <i>OK, I have just started my new purchases of jaw dropping coins from Michael Prince at Harlen Burk Co.

    This collection will probably not exceed 8-10 coins but each will represent an example of coin series

    I find esthetically beautiful. As soon as the coins are received and payed for, I will post then to the coin

    Forum.These coinsmay not be the most expensive examples, but they will be extraordinary in appearance.image >>



    You da BEAR!
    Many buy and sell transactions. Let's talk!
  • DorkGirlDorkGirl Posts: 9,994 ✭✭✭
    The Bear is back in the game!imageimage
    Becky
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