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What's a reasonable bid/ask on 90% & 40% junk?

renman95renman95 Posts: 7,037 ✭✭✭✭✭
Also, 10oz bars. Thanks.

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  • piecesofmepiecesofme Posts: 6,669 ✭✭✭
    Gotta just test the market and see what you get. I was told this morning that we can ask anything we want to on the BST thread. I am not considering to pay $1M for a 100 oz. silver bar though...even with a picture of it in the thread. image
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  • WingsruleWingsrule Posts: 3,010 ✭✭✭✭
    One of my faves buys at $1.00 back and sells at +$1.50 per ounce. Doesn't matter what size or who the OEM is. Generic, premium, 1 oz, 10 oz, 100 oz, it's all the same.
  • guitarwesguitarwes Posts: 9,266 ✭✭✭
    At current levels, I think 30-31X bid, 32-33X ask for 90% and 9-10X bid 11-12 ask for 40% is fair.

    $1 back to spot bid and +$1-2 ask for .999 is fair.

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  • bestmrbestmr Posts: 1,776 ✭✭✭
    I was just at my BM yesterday and they were buying for 30x and selling for 36x. Nice little margin there I thought.
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  • << <i>I was just at my BM yesterday and they were buying for 30x and selling for 36x. Nice little margin there I thought. >>



    30X works out to $42/oz. That seems like a fair offer from a B&M for 90% junk.

    36X is $50+/oz. I can't see too many people paying that much for 90%.
  • piecesofmepiecesofme Posts: 6,669 ✭✭✭
    30X works out to $42/oz. That seems like a fair offer from a B&M for 90% junk.

    What we need to do is define "junk" 90%. My definition would be that it is a cull, meaning, a slick that the date and any details can't be made out to the naked eye. It's very thin and doesn't weigh close to what it should.


    As a seller, if I was offered 30x for "non-junk" 90%, I would laugh and say beat it. If I was offered 33x, I'd say, how much can you buy? jmho

    But saying 30x for "junk" 90% is fair. Just thought the difference should be pointed out.
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  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,377 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yesterday, a local B&M was offering folks 33.65 for 90% .... ie, silver that they wouldn't pay a premium over spot for. Call it junk, call it whatever you want, and that was the offer.
    Not sure today as I didn't go.

    They had quite the business happening yesterday before lunch.....4 counter jockeys and all were kept busy from one person to the next. Most folks were selling...boxes at a time.

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  • piecesofmepiecesofme Posts: 6,669 ✭✭✭
    I know a dealer in the area that is sitting on $15k face of 90%...of his own personal stash. That's not counting what comes in the door and right back out to the Refiner.

    He admitted to having a little bit of a hard time sleeping the last few weeks.


    Call it junk, call it whatever you want, and that was the offer.
    Now you tell me that a wise person such as yourself doesn't know there is a huge difference in junk 90% and non-junk 90%? C'mon Bochi. image
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  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,118 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The world calls ordinary, run of the mill 90% silver U.S. coins "junk silver." Some will be nicer than others, but holed, damaged or serious problem coins should be excluded. This term has been used for decades.

    The world calls culls "culls."

    At the Central States show on Friday, one major Chicago area junk silver buyer told me that he and others are backing off their buys on junk silver a bit because the refineries are backing up more and more. He will gladly sell bags at a little less than their melt price for immediate payment.

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  • << <i>What we need to do is define "junk" 90%. My definition would be that it is a cull, meaning, a slick that the date and any details can't be made out to the naked eye. It's very thin and doesn't weigh close to what it should. >>




    As noted above, that is not the definition most people use. Junk is "average circulated" and often VG/Better quality. In fact, if you buy a $1,000 bag of 90% junk you should find a lot of VF quality pieces. A lot.
  • piecesofmepiecesofme Posts: 6,669 ✭✭✭
    semantics. I'll leave it at that.
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  • Junk silver is any coin that the melt is higher than the probable retail value..
    Proof silver state quarters are now Junk silver....
    Most Modern commems , dollars and halves are now junk silver...
    Proof silver dimes, quarters, halves from 1959 to 64 are now junk silver...
    If ya cant retail it for what you can melt it for, melt it....

    I suspect it wont be long before we are melting BU Franklin sets.. :-(
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  • piecesofmepiecesofme Posts: 6,669 ✭✭✭
    I suspect it wont be long before we are melting BU Franklin sets.. :-(

    Been doing it since $35 Silver.
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  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,118 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>30X works out to $42/oz. That seems like a fair offer from a B&M for 90% junk.

    What we need to do is define "junk" 90%. My definition would be that it is a cull, meaning, a slick that the date and any details can't be made out to the naked eye. It's very thin and doesn't weigh close to what it should.


    As a seller, if I was offered 30x for "non-junk" 90%, I would laugh and say beat it. If I was offered 33x, I'd say, how much can you buy? jmho

    But saying 30x for "junk" 90% is fair. Just thought the difference should be pointed out. >>



    Are you saying that you would walk into a B&M and, if you did not like the proprietor's offer, tell him to beat it?
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  • piecesofmepiecesofme Posts: 6,669 ✭✭✭
    I think someone is taking things a little too literal and has some unwarranted vendetta. Goodbye
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  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,118 ✭✭✭✭✭
    This may be why some people have been discounting their silver buys.....

    Silver splunge!
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  • OverdateOverdate Posts: 7,007 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I suspect it wont be long before we are melting BU Franklin sets.. :-(

    Been doing it since $35 Silver. >>


    Do you take out the 1949-S first?

    << What's a reasonable bid/ask on 90% & 40% junk? >>

    About 12% less than a reasonable bid/ask was two hours ago. image

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  • DkillettDkillett Posts: 103 ✭✭
    33X for 90% that's pretty good. As of this past Thursday the local dealer here was only offering 28X.
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