Excited! Big Rickey Henderson fan..just landed a buyback rc auto!
advan24r
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Rickey has always been my childhood baseball hero...and now that I'm older, I have been able to afford his RC and now his RC auto! Can't wait until it arrives.
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1. Marker appears to be a Sharpie (thicker) not the Staedlers Topps uses
2. I think the Autograpn is fake
3. As mentioned these are easily counterfeited, you can take the case and stickers off with a hair dryer, sign the card and your $3 Reggie Smith auto is now a Henderson
4. Henderson was not part of the 2004 Set (look up Topps Originals 2004 on Beckett.com)
5. The numbering is quite questionable
6. The card is in poor condition, too poor for most buybacks
7. Ad an overseas seller
I would do everything I could to get my money back...
OP's Auction Win
Also, lets think about the likelihood of this card legitimately selling for $380 if it was real, There's lots of highend Rickey Henderson collectors, the closest card to the end price of this rookie was Ebay Item 336710d5d0, in that set there are 137 1/1 Rickey Henderson's (I'm not kidding, yes 137 cards numbered 1/1), a 1/1 Signed RC by Topps would have sold for a lot more than it did...
IMF
Have to agree something isn't right about that sig.
no doubt the card is a fake.. could be a legit auto but its not a buyback at all. So many people get shafted by these Topps encased cards thinking they can't be faked. Its just sad that there are so many scammers out there.
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<< <i>when I got back into the hobby in 07 so much had changed from the 90's that I had to do some research before buying any patch or auto's of my player just to be sure stuff was authentic. It really takes the fun out of the hobby to have to question everything before you buy it but card dealers are some damn shady people nowadays.
no doubt the card is a fake.. could be a legit auto but its not a buyback at all. So many people get shafted by these Topps encased cards thinking they can't be faked. Its just sad that there are so many scammers out there. >>
I also blame the card companies for releasing into the public items that can be so easily manipulated and/or faked. There are steps that can be taken and they just stand still.
You should file a PP claim today and tell the seller you want a refund
If he gives you BS like "but it has a certification sticker" then pay a few bucks for a PSA quick opinion, and they will immediately call it fake
The only thing dumber than spending $380 on a fake without doing homework, is insisting a fake auto is real and keeping it
<< <i>Not even close
You should file a PP claim today and tell the seller you want a refund
If he gives you BS like "but it has a certification sticker" then pay a few bucks for a PSA quick opinion, and they will immediately call it fake
The only thing dumber than spending $380 on a fake without doing homework, is insisting a fake auto is real and keeping it >>
Thanks for the heads up. I should have done my research. I have already contacted Topps, waiting on a reply. I've also contacted the seller, but he has already shipped out the item. I can't open any ebay case until the item is delivered.
What's wrong with this one, that's $180 cheaper?
yours... (I think others might be right
<< <i>The only thing dumber than spending $380 on a fake without doing homework, is insisting a fake auto is real and keeping it >>
And - perhaps - something more repugnant is an apparently tactless, self-righterous response to an OP who's excited about something they purchased.
Then - again - this is just my opinion also.
Needless to say, here are three examples of fake Cal Ripken Jr. "buybacks" that were pulled off eBay before any buyer could get screwed:
Never get cheated
IMF
<< <i>I agree with who believe arming oneself with knowledge before jumping into a transaction of this magnitude is a must.
<< <i>The only thing dumber than spending $380 on a fake without doing homework, is insisting a fake auto is real and keeping it >>
And - perhaps - something more repugnant is an apparently tactless, self-righterous response to an OP who's excited about something they purchased.
Then - again - this is just my opinion also. >>
It's certainly not the first time hammered has shared his superior wisdom with us.
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<< <i>I agree with who believe arming oneself with knowledge before jumping into a transaction of this magnitude is a must.
<< <i>The only thing dumber than spending $380 on a fake without doing homework, is insisting a fake auto is real and keeping it >>
And - perhaps - something more repugnant is an apparently tactless, self-righterous response to an OP who's excited about something they purchased.
Then - again - this is just my opinion also. >>
It's certainly not the first time hammered has shared his superior wisdom with us. >>
Always glad to help
<< <i>I agree with who believe arming oneself with knowledge before jumping into a transaction of this magnitude is a must.
<< <i>The only thing dumber than spending $380 on a fake without doing homework, is insisting a fake auto is real and keeping it >>
And - perhaps - something more repugnant is an apparently tactless, self-righterous response to an OP who's excited about something they purchased.
Then - again - this is just my opinion also. >>
It's called tough love, Mike
<< <i>It's called tough love, Mike >>
Except when you're wrong... then it's just called being an antagonistic d*ck. Remember when you told me this card was worth only $25?
Well you've now been proven wrong twice.
The problem with tough love is that you have to be right 100% of the time, or else you come off looking abrasive, arrogant, and worst of all, ignorant.
All your links prove is that two people drastically overpaid for a 9 PD, probably because they don't realize how much a qualifier drops a 9's value. Uninformed buyers usually don't know this. That $90 is more than the PSA 8.5 price for that card.
9 PD is equivalent to a PSA 7, both in value and in registry weight. VCP on a PSA 7 Murray rookie is $26.99. But if you think it's worth far more than that, then I suggest you buy up all the 9Q's you can find at PSA 8.5 prices.
Regarding the Henderson auto,
I offer no offense to the OP, but dumb (or you can use a gentler word if you like) purchases like these are a significant reason the fake auto business has been so profitable for forgers. If buyers like the OP slowed down and did even minimal research (that Rickey auto would be recognized as a fake even by non-experts), the forgers would soon find themselves without a market.
<< <i>All your links prove is that two people drastically overpaid for a 9 PD, probably because they don't realize how much a qualifier drops a 9's value. Uninformed buyers usually don't know this. That $90 is more than the PSA 8.5 price for that card.
9 PD is equivalent to a PSA 7, both in value and in registry weight. VCP on a PSA 7 Murray rookie is $26.99. But if you think it's worth far more than that, then I suggest you buy up all the 9Q's you can find at PSA 8.5 prices. >>
A card is worth what someone is willing to pay for it, not what hammered says it's worth based on some rigid, pre-determined criteria.
ETA: Not all 9Q cards are equal. A 9(OC) that is almost miscut and would net grade no higher than 3 or 4 due to poor centering is not as nice as a 9(PD) that would easily get a net grade of 7 every time, and might be as high as 8 if the grader is in a good mood. I'm sorry you don't agree and find the need to insult people for it.
<< <i>I'm bummed for the OP/buyer. He thought he had his dream card... Sometimes it's best to keep it to yourself and think it's real, I guess. >>
the ole' ignorance is bliss theory?
IMF
<< <i>I'm bummed for the OP/buyer. He thought he had his dream card... Sometimes it's best to keep it to yourself and think it's real, I guess. >>
and perpetuate such fakes out there in the marketplace when he decides or needs to sell? It really does suck for the OP, but I'm glad he posted it, found out some very important advice and has time to get his money back.
Everyone makes mistakes, the OP can hopefully get his money back and learn from his mistake without it costing a decent chunk of money.
Buy the card, not the holder.