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What will Bernanke say?

I'm new to the precious metal world. I've decided to get in because of inflation fears. ZIRP, bailouts, discount window lending, and quantitative easing have given me good reason to fear inflation. Now to my question.

It seems most foreign national banks are raising their interest rates to stop inflation and now Bernanke wants to hold a press conference right after a Federal Open Market Committee meeting. Bernanke will announce one of two things.

1) The US Fed will begin raising interest rates to fight inflation

2) The Fed will continue with ZIRP and begin a QE3

What do you think his announcement will be and how will that effect PMs, the dollar, and the economy?
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  • derrybderryb Posts: 36,793 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Pure guess:

    FED priority is a continued weak dollar. IF it raises rates, it will only be because it believes the dollar can remain weak against its competitors.

    Press conference was announced weeks ago. I'm looking more at it to be window dressing to project a more "caring" and "open" central bank after all of the valid criticism it has been up against. I don't expect any very specific answers except maybe in the area of future Bond purchases.

    We may see a token rate increase to calm the easily calmed.

    I expect a FED move to end QE. I believe a replacement is in the bullpen but won't be signaled out until most markets have taken a harsh beating and the resulting crisis (created by the FED) can be saved by the FED via more monetization. Nothing like a good crisis. It will take its toll on PMs but not as badly as in 08.

    Current volitility in PMs is reflecting the confusion in the market over the FEDs next step. Volitility in my opinion is strictly paper based, but affects physical pricing. The wide spreads currently being witnessed are a result of investors making initial moves to collect profits ahead of the FED meeting. This is causing speculators to immediately follow suit at the first sign of a downward movement, resulting in large downward spikes. As soon as this happens the smart investor quickly backs up the truck and drives the price back up. Again the now large crowd of silver speculators see the buy movement and spikes it further upward. Hopefully the volitility will simmer by Friday and we can pick up where we left off. The speculators are here to stay, get used to wild swings.

    "Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey

  • 1. No way interest rates are going up this year unless they make some token gesture to 0.5% image

    2. QE2 through June but no news on QE3.

    3. Core inflation is still at 1% or less. image

    4. Our economy is built on a house of cards that a gentle breeze could crash in an instant.












    Just kidding on the last one. image
  • MoneyLAMoneyLA Posts: 1,825
    Seven things Bernanke is NOT going to say:

    1. we blew it

    2. we are in bigger trouble than we thought

    3. Im resigning

    4. there is no way out

    5. return to the gold standard

    6. the world should abandon the dollar as the reserve currency

    7. we are returning the Declaration of independence... come and get us

  • Good analysis derryb, I could see a 10% to 30% correction on the downside. I have my truck idling... second thought I will turn it off to save gasimage
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  • piecesofmepiecesofme Posts: 6,669 ✭✭✭
    I have my truck idling... second thought I will turn it off to save gas

    LMAO!!! That was a good one.
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  • I would ask "The Bernanke":

    Who or what gives u the authority to print money? It's not in the constitution.image
  • VikingDudeVikingDude Posts: 1,342 ✭✭✭
    "Everyone grab your precious metals and run for the hills"
  • morgansforevermorgansforever Posts: 8,461 ✭✭✭✭✭
    We don't have enough presses, could we possilbly outsource some of the printing to China? image
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  • mhammermanmhammerman Posts: 3,769 ✭✭✭
    "We don't have enough presses, could we possilbly outsource some of the printing to China? "

    Brilliant!!!

    We wouldn't have to pay for shipping their junk to the US, we wouldn't have to go through the big doo dah with selling treasuries and swapping dollars and meeting and all that carrying on everytime we need a loan...we could just let them print them and stick the bens in the vault. On the other hand, why don't we just give them the fed password and they can just grab as many digibuks as they want, keep their products and distribute them to the destitute western half of China courtesy of the US citizens, and the world becomes a better place. Happiness is...
  • JCMhoustonJCMhouston Posts: 5,306 ✭✭✭
    The only possible way for The Bernank and the banksters to get out of this mess is inflation, so I don't see him doing anything with interest rates over the short term. The banksters need to inflate values, such as homes, in order to keep people making their payments. Deflated values do the banking system no good at all if mark to market is a reality.

    If The Bernank and his wonderboys can figure out a way to get moderate inflation of 6-8% a year going I think the fed will go in with everything they can to make it happen. There are still a couple of Regional Fed managers who seem to be against this but I don't have much hope they can stop any plan he comes up with. He will say something like " the Fed remains committed to keeping inflation under control but that moderate inflation is ok and to be expected during this recovery".
  • renman95renman95 Posts: 7,037 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Heard from a former Fed-Cat on CNBC last night, 1) say that QE2 will end, 2) no QE3, 3) say that they will pay down reserves (by NOT using their assets-read gold), 4) hint at raising rates, 5) raise rates. This is a 5-step process that will take well into next year said the Fed-Cat.
  • So we won't know what Bernanke will say until tomorrow, but what is with the volatility today?
  • derrybderryb Posts: 36,793 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>So we won't know what Bernanke will say until tomorrow, but what is with the volatility today? >>



    Profit taking caused by uncertainty. Uncertainty should end tomorrow but profit taking may remain, depending on the message received.

    "Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey

  • Shocking that silver is down big today while the dollar continues to taking a beating. Guess that signals some technical weakness where it was relative to even the lower dollar value.
  • derrybderryb Posts: 36,793 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Shocking that silver is down big today while the dollar continues to taking a beating. Guess that signals some technical weakness where it was relative to even the lower dollar value. >>


    Fundamentals for silver have not changed. Fear (profit taking) has changed. Percentage of speculators in the market has increased making it more volatile. Speculators can heavily influence price via paper without taking posession, expecially with SLV.

    Think of silver really being where it should be when compared to a weak dollar; that's is its equilibrium and where it will return to. Anticipation of FED movement has all markets rattled. A smart investor will pick the bottom and go all in.

    "Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey

  • storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭


    My WAG at The Bernanke's statement:


    ALL is pretty good.

    Recovery is on track.

    Inflation is controllable.

    There will be no "QE3," but we will continue to "support the markets and the economy."

    Interest rates will remain low for a long time.


    ........................................

    Metals should start upward movement tonight. If not, they
    should pop up tomorrow, based on the fantasy that TB will paint.

    OTOH, if enough folks believe what TB is going to say, PMs
    could stall.

    My suspicion is that TB will be perceived as a liar and/or a fool,
    and that PMs will move up while he is talking.

    ..................................









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  • guitarwesguitarwes Posts: 9,266 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Heard from a former Fed-Cat on CNBC last night, 1) say that QE2 will end, 2) no QE3, 3) say that they will pay down reserves (by NOT using their assets-read gold), 4) hint at raising rates, 5) raise rates. This is a 5-step process that will take well into next year said the Fed-Cat. >>




    so, if this happens, what most likely will happen to PMs? Wil they rise slow and steady?

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  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,303 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Ben's statement will probably give a temporary boost to the dollar lasting from 1-48 hours. That will probably give PM's one more kick in the pants.
    When the dollar rally falters, then PM's should resume upward path.

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  • mrearlygoldmrearlygold Posts: 17,858 ✭✭✭
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    Eventually:

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  • TomohawkTomohawk Posts: 667 ✭✭
    FWIW: The Bernacke will vacuously claim all is well for about 5 minutes.

    Then he'll vacuously talk about his "concerns" over how long price recovery "in some sectors" is taking.

    Then he'll get on the "evil moneymaker" bandwagon and start vacuously trashing oil, gold, etc.

    Might even here the "irrational exuberance" phrase (or something like) for PM's/oil.

    Will then answer 5 questions in extreme monotone, with ridiculous lingo and FED-speak phrases...then sit down, blink vacuously a couple of times and end the NC.

    Collective "huh?" will be heard...life will go on...FED will continue to eat its own poop...PM's will shoot up, and I'll still be thinking: "Why the heck did I have to sell all my silver last year?@!!"
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  • cohodkcohodk Posts: 19,102 ✭✭✭✭✭
    He will admit that he has tried mightily to create inflation and has yet not even been able to exceed prices of 3 years ago. He will shake his head at his own ineffectiveness.
    Excuses are tools of the ignorant

    Knowledge is the enemy of fear

  • BearBear Posts: 18,953 ✭✭✭
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    and necessary to protect the Nation and its people. Rip out the connections between the

    Government and the hidden power structure, restore what has been eliminated in protective

    legislation, eliminate the Federal Reserve and stop playing policeman to the entire world. It

    is about time we started to worry more about the state of our Nation, then controlling everything,

    all the time every where.
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  • derrybderryb Posts: 36,793 ✭✭✭✭✭
    There will be a dead cat bounch in bonds, equities and the dollar immediately after his press conference. PMs will take a dive. Once the dead cat smell clears the air, aforementioned markets will all reverse course. Question is "how long will the smell linger?" I say less than a week.

    Note that this is a first ever press conference. Hopefully they won't remove testicles before allowing reporters admittance. The fact that is has been planned for some time now tells me that all of the answers to foreseen questions have been carefully prepared in order to portray whatever message is in the cards.

    The only excitement might be a gutsy reporter catching him off guard. Maybe FOX hired Dr. Paul for the day!

    "Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey

  • jmski52jmski52 Posts: 22,824 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Please note,

    The inflation.....that isn't............

    The recovery.....that isn't...........

    The QE.....that isn't...............



    What I think the bernanke will say: "Nothing to see here. Move along."
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  • BigEBigE Posts: 6,949 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I would ask "The Bernanke":

    Who or what gives u the authority to print money? It's not in the constitution.image >>



    The Bernank would say this to that "it has been done many times in the past", as justification as to why they can do itimage----------------------------BigE
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  • BigEBigE Posts: 6,949 ✭✭✭
    He will say something like " the Fed remains committed to keeping inflation under control but that moderate inflation is ok and to be expected during this recovery".


    Dang JCM, that sounds exactly like something he would say, very goodimage-----------BigE


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  • MilesWaitsMilesWaits Posts: 5,349 ✭✭✭✭✭
    He will say what he needs to say to appease the masses, then have a good laugh in the back room with some light teeth gnashing.

    Then, a nice cigar, good liquor, maybe a fiist run movie and retire to his coffin.

    I am taking the day off in preperation for Thursday's mint offerring. My sublime dog's await me......

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  • derrybderryb Posts: 36,793 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Has anyone seen what time this press conference is supposed to begin?

    "Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey

  • storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭


    2:15 PM, EST, Wednesday.




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  • OverdateOverdate Posts: 7,007 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If Congress refuses to raise the debt ceiling, it won't matter what Bernanke says or does.

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  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,118 ✭✭✭✭✭
    He is going to say "Inflation? What Inflation? Let's CUT the Social Security payments, there's so little inflation!!!"
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  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,847 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Dude, where's my car?















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  • I know what he won't be saying... anything remotely resembling the truth.
  • gsa1fangsa1fan Posts: 5,566 ✭✭✭
    Local news is saying this is the first of 4 annual press conferences. So I'm guessing just another round of babbling economist word play.
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  • morgansforevermorgansforever Posts: 8,461 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Is the planned $600 billion in Treasury purchases in June, defined as QE2 or 3?
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  • derrybderryb Posts: 36,793 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Local news is saying this is the first of 4 annual press conferences. So I'm guessing just another round of babbling economist word play. >>


    It's a PR stunt to "improve" their image.



    << <i>Is the planned $600 billion in Treasury purchases in June, defined as QE2 or 3? >>


    QE2. It ends in June and has been stretched out over the last months.

    "Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey

  • Does anyone know if Ron Paul is attending this first ever questioning? Isn't that amazing, The Fed has never come forward to answer questions honestly. image

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  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,303 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think he is going to say what the heck is gold doing at $1524 and the dollar back in the crapper! I thought the Morgue was supposed to take care of this today? image

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  • So no QE3, according to Bernanke


  • << <i>So no QE3, according to Bernanke >>

    And yet the price of Gold and Silver keeps rising!
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  • renman95renman95 Posts: 7,037 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I don't know what was said between the lines but gold is up $18!
  • JCMhoustonJCMhouston Posts: 5,306 ✭✭✭
    The Bernamk managed to make the sheeple and the banksters happy, stocks up, bonds up, PM's up.
  • What I see causing the spike in PMs (and look at the dollar drop too) are two things:

    1) No increase in interest rates.

    2) Maintaining the balance sheet after QE2. This means when they stop creating money, they will use the loan proceeds and "reinvest" them by buying other bonds, treasuries, etc. which is equivalent to leaving the money in the economy. So, in other words, there will be no tightening of the money supply in the short term.
  • storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭

    Arthur F. Burns set the stage for folks to get rich.

    G. William Miller let folks get very rich.

    Paul Volcker took away some of folks' riches.

    Alan Greenspan let fleet-footed folks get VERY rich.

    The Bernanke is letting smart folks get pretty rich.


    If it becomes obvious that a changing of the guard is
    inevitable, Volcker-days will return suddenly.


    ......................................

    Congrats to the folks who acted presciently this morning.

    ..................................................

    Even MOO popped a little while The Bernanke was talking.

    "Transitory Inflation." Tell that to the folks who just wanna
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  • ibzman350ibzman350 Posts: 5,315


    << <i>He will say something like " the Fed remains committed to keeping inflation under control but that moderate inflation is ok and to be expected during this recovery".


    Dang JCM, that sounds exactly like something he would say, very goodimage-----------BigE >>





    We have a winner! Datz exactly what he said........




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  • pf70collectorpf70collector Posts: 6,641 ✭✭✭
    Sounds like a broken record.
  • derrybderryb Posts: 36,793 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think he said "stocks are good, PMs are good and the dollar is not good."

    "Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey

  • It seems we get more of the same.

    1. Continue with loose money ZIRP policy
    2. QE2 continues as planned
    3. There will be no QE3
    4. Fed bankers are still jaded and don't realize they're ruining the dollar

    Interpretation:

    PMs will still perform well. As inflation becomes more and more obvious, more people will flood safe havens.

  • percybpercyb Posts: 3,324 ✭✭✭✭
    Bernanke will say in so many words. "I'm a do nothing, know it all academic with a degree from Harvard."
    To which I say, Fire his arse, and Geithner's while your at it, and impeach Obama.
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