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Guess the Grade: 1912-S Barber Half ---GRADE POSTED

ManorcourtmanManorcourtman Posts: 8,206 ✭✭✭✭✭
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What say you, will give PCGS opinion latter......

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  • DennisHDennisH Posts: 14,011 ✭✭✭✭✭
    VF35?
    When in doubt, don't.
  • SamByrdSamByrd Posts: 3,131 ✭✭✭✭
    VF20
  • bidaskbidask Posts: 14,029 ✭✭✭✭✭
    VF 20 or F 15
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  • llafoellafoe Posts: 7,220 ✭✭
    20

    I love the obverse.
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  • RampageRampage Posts: 9,512 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I saw VF25. Nice looking coin.



  • MonteCarloMonteCarlo Posts: 142
    VF30, and high end for that grade... not enough feather detail remaining at the wingtips for a 35.

    And thanks again for the 00-O, Chris.
  • LogPotatoLogPotato Posts: 2,177 ✭✭✭✭
    35 Obverse with a 30 reverse, I'll say PCGS gave it the 35.

    Very nice looking half by the way.
  • PokermandudePokermandude Posts: 2,713 ✭✭✭
    First thought was VF20.
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  • bsshog40bsshog40 Posts: 3,971 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I would say borderline VF30
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  • EdscoinEdscoin Posts: 2,028 ✭✭✭
    Solid VF30
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  • TorinoCobra71TorinoCobra71 Posts: 8,061 ✭✭✭
    F15
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  • coinlieutenantcoinlieutenant Posts: 9,320 ✭✭✭✭✭
    25

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  • ManorcourtmanManorcourtman Posts: 8,206 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thanks for your guesses. I think they missed the boat on this one. I graded it a solid 25, I lost!

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  • InYHWHWeTrustInYHWHWeTrust Posts: 1,451 ✭✭✭
    Sad thing is, if you shinied it up a bit with some baking soda, and resent it, they'd give it a 30. It's becoming pitiful re: the inconsistency of grading and moreso, what's making it in these days (PCGS). That is a PQ coin and is a solid VF, but not worth resubmitting as true Barber collectors know originality and will pay for quality coinage.

    Here is only one of 2 remaining halves from my set, bought raw off ebay before the big blastoff... graded 2004.

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  • TorinoCobra71TorinoCobra71 Posts: 8,061 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Thanks for your guesses. I think they missed the boat on this one. I graded it a solid 25, I lost!

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    NAILED IT!

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  • llafoellafoe Posts: 7,220 ✭✭
    They must have net graded it... 20 obv and 15 rev.
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  • DennisHDennisH Posts: 14,011 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Insanely nice coin.
    I'd love to own it.
    When in doubt, don't.
  • MonteCarloMonteCarlo Posts: 142


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    << <i>Thanks for your guesses. I think they missed the boat on this one. I graded it a solid 25, I lost!

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    NAILED IT!

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    Yep... and IN MY OPINION both you and PCGS got this one wrong. Congrats! image
  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,621 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    it's hard to get the font correct with a Sharpie. image

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  • TexasNationalsTexasNationals Posts: 3,837 ✭
    Go to PCGS photo grade and there VF20-35 examples are similar to yours. The coin is indeed a F-15, but I could see it in a VF-20 holder. Seriously, go to the PCGS photo grade and look at the barber half VF-30 example and I say your coin is nicer. This is why I started and bought 2 VF-35 Barber halves. Both were so far different I gave up on the half series and focus on the dimes now and raw is good in my book.
  • MFHMFH Posts: 11,720 ✭✭✭✭

    I gave it a VF 25 - and I see very little difference between
    the one you posted, Chris and the one and the one Don posted.

    I only have one image of another circulated 12-S
    but in PCGS 45 so its not a good comparison.
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  • MonteCarloMonteCarlo Posts: 142
    Going through my own Barber Half collection I located a coin that possesses almost an identical look to the 1912-S in question in this thread.
    I've created a composite image so you can compare them.

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    Ignoring the difference in image clarity, I think just about everyone would agree the coins are virtually identical in amount of wear AND wear
    pattern. But here's the kicker. PCGS gave the 1912-S a grade of F12; PCGS gave my 1910 a grade of VF35. So we have essentially identical
    coins receiving wildly different grades. As one would guess from my prior comments in this thread, I disagree with BOTH assessments. Both
    coins should have graded VF30. I base my grading opinion on my 14 years of collecting VF and XF Barber Halves exclusively and having seen
    and/or handled tens of thousands of examples during that time. I'm not trying to "toot my own horn", but I've become very adept at assessing
    CONSISTENT grades to coins of this series.
  • TexasNationalsTexasNationals Posts: 3,837 ✭
    Above validates my story and reasoning, thank you and good night.

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