NT or AT?? 1966 Canadian 50c
Manorcourtman
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Posted this on the US Forum also. I wanted some opinions on this 1966 Canadian half. First of all I must say this is the most beautiful toned coin I've ever owned whether it NT or AT!! I bought this from a coin dealer in Canada about 3 months ago and have no reason to believe he AT'd it as I only paid 2x melt for it and he really never said much about the toning to begin with. The pic are 100% accurate and taken under narural sunlight. No adjustments were made to the pic. The obverse is 95% white and the coin grades AU58 imho. Here she is...
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If anyone disagrees, be glad to tell why I think so..
It's just that I got my PCGS grades.
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Don
"“Those who sacrifice liberty for security/safety deserve neither.“(Benjamin Franklin)
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I vote AT - these colors do not appear natural and a face down coin may well be toned rev. only.
Always interesting that there are to my knowledge NO reports of such toning on coins prior to
the last 20 or so years.
As a scientist, I would like somebody to run at least a mass spec on the rev. surface of this or
similar coins. I am not convinced that the color is a straight oxidation of the coin's alloy.
Well, just Love coins, period.
1-Having seen a lot of these coins over 30 years of collecting, in cardboard sets, cases with felt or nylon lining, Whitman holders etc. that could only have been NT
since they were in the original holder.
2-If someone is going to AT a coin, why in the world would they just do one side and leave the other looking pug ugly as this one does?
3-I've run into, bought and dumped quite a few artificially toned coins from ebay and in "genuine" PCGS holders over the years. This
coin doesn't have the "splash and run" uneven kind of toning, rather concentric circles that I've seen lots of in PCGS graded holders.
Believe me, these folks don't take chances and will make the AT call in a minute.
I have had 2 or 3 over the years that I KNEW were NT because I had held them in original holders for 20 plus years; resubmitted them
with some facts (and a few tears) and gotten a grade. I did note, though, that all of them were about 1 point lower than they should
have been. I guess that's PCGS' way of saying "Just in Case"
It's just that I got my PCGS grades.
<< <i>I have had 2 or 3 over the years that I KNEW were NT because I had held them in original holders for 20 plus years; >>
What were the 'original holders'? The 1966 coins came in pliofilm for the P-L sets, not the cardboard of the earlier sets.
DPOTD-3
'Emancipate yourselves from mental slavery'
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Don
This coin could have been reverse down on cardboard or other sulfur/toning agent containing material.
Heck, maybe a radiator.
So is it real or is a Toni :+)
It's just that I got my PCGS grades.
I would again speculate the toned side to be not facing down but rather up and to the elements....Whatever they may be.
Well, just Love coins, period.
colors are just not right... IMHO...
there may be a consideration here...
one can have a coin take on NT by purposely placing it in certain surroundings for a while......
and, WHO was the dealer in Canada?
that might enlighten some of us.
H
However, I've seen some really wild Greyside pieces from that era that were probably NT.
I have no idea. It's pretty either way, but it's wild enough that one would perhaps be right to be a bit cautious.