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Do You Find It Annoying? II
macboube
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After receiving a slabbed card won at auction, only to find the seller has left a sticker on the rear, and now you have to deal with the messy and time consuming hassle of removing it. Usually the adhesive is so old it requires a solvent of some sort to get rid of all the goo.
It seems this is happening more frequently of late. You would hope that a seller would have the common courtesy of dealing with this himself B4 shipping.
It seems this is happening more frequently of late. You would hope that a seller would have the common courtesy of dealing with this himself B4 shipping.
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<< <i>After receiving a slabbed card won at auction, only to find the seller has left a sticker on the rear, and now you have to deal with the messy and time consuming hassle of removing it. Usually the adhesive is so old it requires a solvent of some sort to get rid of all the goo.
It seems this is happening more frequently of late. You would hope that a seller would have the common courtesy of dealing with this himself B4 shipping. >>
Just opened a new Ebay package today, didja? These two annoyances sound like fresh wounds. And yeah, this one totally bites.
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BB King is totally on top of it!
I find scratched up slabs more of a pain.
I reholdered 20+ cards in Nov. due to scratched up slabs or
slabs with cracks in them. $100+ gone that I can't use to buy
more cards.
I don't like passing the screwed up slab onto the next buyer either.
Working on the following: 1970 Baseball PSA, 1970-1976 Raw, World Series Subsets PSA, 1969 Expansion Teams PSA, Fleer World Series Sets, Texas Rangers Topps Run 1972-1989
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<< <i>After receiving a slabbed card won at auction, only to find the seller has left a sticker on the rear, and now you have to deal with the messy and time consuming hassle of removing it. Usually the adhesive is so old it requires a solvent of some sort to get rid of all the goo.
It seems this is happening more frequently of late. You would hope that a seller would have the common courtesy of dealing with this himself B4 shipping. >>
Yes I received a 73 Topps Ryan with the slab clouded (not described in auction.) I'm sure seller had tried to use a solvent on sticker residue. Anyway, I'm having it reholdered. Added expense and exposure to loss, damage, etc. was not anticipated when purchased. Could have asked for a refund...so I'm not allowed to complain too much about it.
<< <i>We bought a bunch of cards a year or so ago go from CU member theczar (Frank Merz). Most of the cards were fine but 4 of them had serious cracks in them. He then made up the excuse that that was how they were when he got them and that we were nitpicking to even mention this.
He now spends hundreds and hundreds of dollars on single cards for his 1977 Topps Baseball set, and yet balked at his responsibility to refund $20 to keep a seller happy, and more importantly, do the right thing.
This is the risk you take when making payments via Paypal gift. In general, it's fine, but once in a while you'll get burned like we did by theczar.
Oh old memories ... we got these cards reholdered on our own dime of course. >>
I understand the frustration of not receiving perfection . I've dealt with Frank (Theczar) many , many times and have never had a reason to whine like a little girl / boy thing . On his higher priced items that I've bought , everything was well protected and arrived on time and as expected. Even on his lower quality items , I've never had any issues as well.
My understanding was Frank had made a super deal with you at a massive discount. I think it was YOU , in one of your creepy post , that stated It would take a long time , to collect "said" items ---- to justify your normal " Above reasonable , overpriced krap you sell. Even if you had to buy to reholder ( if you even did) them , these cards were much cheaper than if you had to buy them at a non discounted rate.
Paul or whatever you are , the way you like to trash others is not good. You are mentioned on numerous boards , in never a good light , and I think most normal people would find themselves hard pressed to find or mention , any of your better personal qualities. I believe you give most normal folks here the same taste in their mouth , that the infamous Gary does.
What you did to Hatch , caused me personally to lose the very little bit of respect I still had left for you. I'm a firm believer that what goes around , comes around. --- Sonny
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<< <i>We bought a bunch of cards a year or so ago go from CU member theczar (Frank Merz). Most of the cards were fine but 4 of them had serious cracks in them. He then made up the excuse that that was how they were when he got them and that we were nitpicking to even mention this.
He now spends hundreds and hundreds of dollars on single cards for his 1977 Topps Baseball set, and yet balked at his responsibility to refund $20 to keep a seller happy, and more importantly, do the right thing.
This is the risk you take when making payments via Paypal gift. In general, it's fine, but once in a while you'll get burned like we did by theczar.
Oh old memories ... we got these cards reholdered on our own dime of course. >>
I understand the frustration of not receiving perfection . I've dealt with Frank (Theczar) many , many times and have never had a reason to whine like a little girl / boy thing . On his higher priced items that I've bought , everything was well protected and arrived on time and as expected. Even on his lower quality items , I've never had any issues as well.
My understanding was Frank had made a super deal with you at a massive discount. I think it was YOU , in one of your creepy post , that stated It would take a long time , to collect "said" items ---- to justify your normal " Above reasonable , overpriced krap you sell. Even if you had to buy to reholder ( if you even did) them , these cards were much cheaper than if you had to buy them at a non discounted rate.
Paul or whatever you are , the way you like to trash others is not good. You are mentioned on numerous boards , in never a good light , and I think most normal people would find themselves hard pressed to find or mention , any of your better personal qualities. I believe you give most normal folks here the same taste in their mouth , that the infamous Gary does.
What you did to Hatch , caused me personally to lose the very little bit of respect I still had left for you. I'm a firm believer that what goes around , comes around. --- Sonny >>
I echo these sentiments...
if you think i am going flame back at you and bring the popcorn girl to this thread you are mistaken.
my only response to you is this. is it good advice for all of us, but especially for you.
Matthew 7:5
<< <i>We bought a bunch of cards a year or so ago go from CU member theczar (Frank Merz). Most of the cards were fine but 4 of them had serious cracks in them. He then made up the excuse that that was how they were when he got them and that we were nitpicking to even mention this.
He now spends hundreds and hundreds of dollars on single cards for his 1977 Topps Baseball set, and yet balked at his responsibility to refund $20 to keep a seller happy, and more importantly, do the right thing.
This is the risk you take when making payments via Paypal gift. In general, it's fine, but once in a while you'll get burned like we did by theczar.
Oh old memories ... we got these cards reholdered on our own dime of course. >>
First of all, who the hell are "we"? I find it hard to believe that there is another moron out there operating on your business model.
Second, seriously? A moral lesson from a guy that charges $700 for 1977 "mint" sets that aren't mint, and who intentionally causes other board members to pay more than they should at auction? I certainly hope what you did to Hatch was only to raise prices on for your own eventual sales of '78s, and not just to be belligerent.
I probably don't need to post this, because I'd be surprised if there is a board member here that takes you seriously, but for anyone reading this thread,
I'll strongly reiterate what others have said about Frank - above board in every way, as I have personally dealt with him on a regular basis for several years.
Buyers/collectors like Frank and Hatch are good for the hobby, as their purchases keep prices strong.
I'll guess that whining publicly about $20 after you get a great bulk deal from another board member will reduce your credibility to about zero.
<< <i>First of all, who the hell are "we"? I find it hard to believe that there is another moron out there operating on your business model.
Second, seriously? A moral lesson from a guy that charges $700 for 1977 "mint" sets that aren't mint, and who intentionally causes other board members to pay more than they should at auction? I certainly hope what you did to Hatch was only to raise prices on for your own eventual sales of '78s, and not just to be belligerent.
I probably don't need to post this, because I'd be surprised if there is a board member here that takes you seriously, but for anyone reading this thread,
I'll strongly reiterate what others have said about Frank - above board in every way, as I have personally dealt with him on a regular basis for several years.
Buyers/collectors like Frank and Hatch are good for the hobby, as their purchases keep prices strong.
I'll guess that whining publicly about $20 after you get a great bulk deal from another board member will reduce your credibility to about zero. >>
---- " credibilty to about zero . "--------- A couple of things can be said about this.
(1)--- If its this low , there may the possibility of marginal inprovement in the same lifetime.
(2)-- I need to remind everyone there is a large difference between ZERO and an angstrom ABOVE ZERO .
Zero is Burge- territory . Basicly what I'm saying is that there are some slightly minor differences between a bottom feeder scum and a surface feeding scum. Morons will scratch their head , and wonder what the hell my point is.
So be it.---- Sonny
The sticky problems that irk me are always on the back of the card and they are generally unscanned. Way troublesome and time consuming to ask for a rear scan of every card you bid on.
There once was a great product called "Paper Off" in a spray bottle that I found to be the very best in removing sticky gunk from plastic. I think it has been discontinued. Does anybody know?
Also, is goo be gone any good for this problem? If anyone has good results with other solvents/cleaners, please advise.
Never had a problem with Frank either, btw Frank I need to PM you.
S
Chill out, crap happens in this business. 99.9% of the time everything goes pretty well...focus on more important stuff in your life than a deal that has a few barbs.
As for the sticky on the back...WD40 used judiciously will end your migraine here. Spray on paper towel...rub vigorously on tab/sticky stuff. Soon it loosens and goes away, as does the goo. Wipe quickly with a clean paper towel.
LMK if open-heart surgery comes your way...then I'll worry and pray for you...let the other stuff go, life is such a short ride.
As for the cheap shot at Frank (the czar), I've done a bunch of deals with him...nothing but spot on perfect, EVERY time.
<< <i>but 4 of them had serious cracks in them. He then made up the excuse that that was how they were when he got them and that we were nitpicking to even mention this. >>
I do not know the buyer or seller here but no seller should knowingly sell cards with cracked cases without disclosing it to the buyer. The size and discount of the deal is irrelevant.
i've reslabbed a bunch of cards in the past couple years and i believe many came at a bargain because of their appearance.
and here's a +1 for theczar.
1. Buyers are idiots.
2. Sellers are crooks.
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Ralph
1. Buyers are idiots.
I recently acquired 96 1955 Topps PSA 7 cards and the deal went very smoothly. The lot was actually for 97 cards, but one card could not be located...I simply accepted a $20 paypal refund, which I thought was generous on my part, given that I ended up with less than the $20. All cards BTW were in excellent condition, perhaps a bit of WD40 here and there to remove some "stuff", but overall very pleased. This purchase BTW pushed me to needing just under 30 cards to complete the set in straight PSA 7. I was lucky to find a "motivated" seller and got a superb price.
2. Sellers are crooks. I trust our transaction of not long ago excludes me from your premise. Nor do I think you're an idiot.
Regards,
Al
My premise applies to everyone except me and you.
Actually it is pretty much tongue in cheek. After reading these forums for several years the theme I see repeated often is sellers complaining about the idiots they have to deal with or buyers complaining about a deal and asking if they should forget about it, leave a negative, demand a refund, or go kick his butt.
In truth if a deal goes smoothly (as ours did because we are both competent, reasonable individuals) we just move on. I guess it is human nature to accentuate the negative and forget the positive.
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Ralph
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Ralph
<< <i>We bought a bunch of cards a year or so ago go from CU member theczar (Frank Merz). Most of the cards were fine but 4 of them had serious cracks in them. He then made up the excuse that that was how they were when he got them and that we were nitpicking to even mention this.
He now spends hundreds and hundreds of dollars on single cards for his 1977 Topps Baseball set, and yet balked at his responsibility to refund $20 to keep a seller happy, and more importantly, do the right thing.
This is the risk you take when making payments via Paypal gift. In general, it's fine, but once in a while you'll get burned like we did by theczar.
Oh old memories ... we got these cards reholdered on our own dime of course. >>
well i had to send nearly half of a sub back to psa as half were cracked when i opened the registered mail package. needless to say they left psa in that cracked condition as the package was not damaged in anyway. psa, paid for shipping and reholdering.
but i can see that someone could have gotten slabs straight from psa with cracks. the thing is if you dont catch them soon enough then psa wont be as quick to reholder for free.
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