Do you collect players you don't like?

scmavl

Will you collect cards of players that you personally don't like, based on their fame/value/etc? For example, I don't collect Ty Cobb (racist, general a-hole) or Willie Mays (arrogant), both of which are arguably the best to ever play the game. I prefer Killebrew, Musial, Aaron, Brooks Robinson and nice guys like that. Does this matter to you?

Garabaldi

I only collect players that I like, personally not players I don't like.

AUPT

Regarding Ty Cobb, I'm not sure you can judge the man as a whole by only a portion of his life.

Cobb may have had racial views that are no longer politically correct, but I think you have to consider that in historical context. He grew up in a time and a place where his views on the subject of race were not extraordinary. His father, or certainly his grandparents, would have had first-hand experiences with Yankee (as opposed to Yankees) aggression and oppression in the Civil War and during Reconstruction.

I've just finished reading the entire run of The Sporting News for 1953. Time and again there were news accounts in that paper about Cobb's philanthropic generosity, especially benefiting youngsters and the communities in which he lived. I say the good he did in that milleau far outweighed a few bloodied shins on the basepaths and the occasional thumping of a drunked loudmouth in the stands.

As much as one can know a person from second-hand published accounts, I don't think Ty Cobb had cause to dread his Judgment Day.

Ironmanfan

<< <i>Regarding Ty Cobb, I'm not sure you can judge the man as a whole by only a portion of his life.

Cobb may have had racial views that are no longer politically correct, but I think you have to consider that in historical context. He grew up in a time and a place where his views on the subject of race were not extraordinary. His father, or certainly his grandparents, would have had first-hand experiences with Yankee (as opposed to Yankees) aggression and oppression in the Civil War and during Reconstruction.

I've just finished reading the entire run of The Sporting News for 1953. Time and again there were news accounts in that paper about Cobb's philanthropic generosity, especially benefiting youngsters and the communities in which he lived. I say the good he did in that milleau far outweighed a few bloodied shins on the basepaths and the occasional thumping of a drunked loudmouth in the stands.

As much as one can know a person from second-hand published accounts, I don't think Ty Cobb had cause to dread his Judgment Day. >>



and if you follow Coaches Corner auction's, he never went anywhere without his green pen

IMF

AUPT

I think it's been pretty well established that one of Cobb's earlier biographers, Al Stump, signed about as many "Ty Cobb" autographs as Cobb did himself.

PowderedH2O

I'm on the OJ Simpson player registry. I thought (and still do) that he was the greatest football player that I have ever seen. That being said, as a human being he hasn't exactly proven to be a great guy.

itzagoner

i collect guys no one else likes.

cheaper that way.

DavidPuddy

<< <i>i collect guys no one else likes.

cheaper that way. >>



Yep, this.

TNP777

<< <i>i collect guys no one else likes.

cheaper that way. >>


heh

corvette1340

This thread gives me a genius idea. I'm gonna pitch to PSA the thought of having an "all bad guy" rookie registry set. We could all vote on who belongs in the registry. I'll start with a few:

Barry Bonds
OJ Simpson
Ty Cobb
Michael Vick
Plaxico Burress
Ray Lewis
Pete Rose
Terrell Owens
Dennis Rodman
Bill Laimbeer

itzagoner

<< <i>This thread gives me a genius idea. I'm gonna pitch to PSA the thought of having an "all bad guy" rookie registry set. We could all vote on who belongs in the registry. I'll start with a few:

Barry Bonds
OJ Simpson
Ty Cobb
Michael Vick
Plaxico Burress
Ray Lewis
Pete Rose
Terrell Owens
Dennis Rodman
Bill Laimbeer >>



corvette1340

MBMiller25

I don't collect players I dont like. I won't touch a Willie Mays card. He's an ass!

BPorter26

Don't forget Latrell Spreewell

stevek

I collect autographs of fictional players such as Roy Hobbs.

corvette1340

<< <i>

<< <i>This thread gives me a genius idea. I'm gonna pitch to PSA the thought of having an "all bad guy" rookie registry set. We could all vote on who belongs in the registry. I'll start with a few:

Barry Bonds
OJ Simpson
Ty Cobb
Michael Vick
Plaxico Burress
Ray Lewis
Pete Rose
Terrell Owens
Dennis Rodman
Bill Laimbeer >>



corvette1340 >>



My rookie card would be too expensive for this.

zendude

I don't judge players that I've never met or had any interaction with. Guys like Dick Allen, Pete Rose, Jim Rice, Albert Belle, Barry Bonds, and yes Ty Cobb and Rogers Hornsby all developed bad reputations. But who am I to judge? They are all part of the game and besides wouldn't it be boring if everyone acted like Cal Ripken?

Dboneesq

<< <i>This thread gives me a genius idea. I'm gonna pitch to PSA the thought of having an "all bad guy" rookie registry set. We could all vote on who belongs in the registry. I'll start with a few:

Barry Bonds
OJ Simpson
Ty Cobb
Michael Vick
Plaxico Burress
Ray Lewis
Pete Rose
Terrell Owens
Dennis Rodman
Bill Laimbeer >>



Here are a few more for you to include:

FOOTBALL
Billy Cannon Retired Counterfeiting 5 years Served 2½ years.

Rae Carruth Carolina Panthers conspiracy to commit murder 24 years[4] Projected Release Date October 22, 2018

Cecil Collins Miami Dolphins burglary 15 years Current release date, July 16, 2014

Dwayne Goodrich Dallas Cowboys criminally negligent homicide 12½ years Hit and run accident. Eligible for parole in 2009.

Thomas "Hollywood" Henderson retired (from Dallas Cowboys) sexual assault, bribery 4 years, eight months released after serving 28 months

Darryl Henley Los Angeles Rams drug trafficking, attempted conspiracy to commit murder 41 years expected release date: March 28, 2031

Travis Henry Free agent, recently released from Denver Broncos Drug trafficking 3 years expected release date: December 19, 2011

Terry "Tank" Johnson Chicago Bears probation violation relating to weapons possession 120 days served 60 days

Jamal Lewis Baltimore Ravens using a cell phone to facilitate a drug deal four months served four months

Leonard Little St. Louis Rams involuntary manslaughter three months Involved in fatal car crash while intoxicated.

Dexter Manley Washington Redskins drug possession, evidence tampering 4 years (1996) 2 years (2002) served over three years total

Byron "Bam" Morris Kansas City Chiefs drug trafficking 30 months Released after serving two and a half years

Eugene "Mercury" Morris retired from Miami Dolphins drug trafficking 20 years conviction overturned - reached plea bargain and released after serving 3 years

Nate Newton retired from Dallas Cowboys drug trafficking 7½ years (two separate convictions)released after serving about two and a half years

Lawrence Phillips released/retired assault, separate incident of assault with a deadly weapon (intentionally driving into victims) 31 years total previously sentenced to 10 years on driving charge, which was reduced to seven years during sentencing for assault charge against his girlfriend in 2009

Robert Rozier (a.k.a. Robert Rameses) retired from St. Louis Cardinals multiple murders convicted of four murders, served 10 years and placed in witness protection after testifying against Yahweh Ben Yahweh, later sentenced to 25 to life on check kiting charge under three strikes rule

Art Schlichter Indianapolis Colts forgery, theft, others 16 years committed over 20 felonies related to gambling, released from prison in June 2006

Orenthal "O. J." Simpson retired robbery, kidnapping nine to thirty-three years

Alonzo Spellman retired/cut (from Chicago Bears) interference with a flight crew, simple assault 18 months served one year

Donte Stallworth Cleveland Browns DUI Manslaughter (Driving under the influence of alcohol) 30 Days incarceration, 2 years house arrest

Michael Vick Atlanta Falcons conspiracy, related to dog fighting 23 months

Stanley Wilson Sr. retired from Cincinnati Bengals burglary 22 years sentence was under a third strike provision

Baseball
Willie Mays Aikens retired drug possession with intent to distribute, gun possession 20 years, 8 months Released to a halfway house after serving 14 plus years due to a retroactive change in sentencing guidelines

Orlando Cepeda retired drug possession 5 years served 10 months

Alex Cole retired drug possession with intent to distribute 18 months

Dwight Gooden retired fleeing police, violation of probation (drug use) 1 year served 7 months

Mel Hall retired three counts of aggravated sexual assault of a child and two counts of indecency with a child 45 years Serving his sentence at Allred prison in Texas

Denny McLain retired (from Detroit Tigers) drug trafficking, embezzlement, and racketeering 12 years prior sentence overturned after he served two years, released after plea-bargain

Byron McLaughlin retired Money laundering — Fled the country before being sentenced. Current whereabouts unknown, presumed to be in France

Hiroshi Ogawa retired murder, theft life

Pete Rose retired/banned tax evasion 5 months

Darryl Strawberry retired drug possession, solicitation of prostitution 18 months Sentence was suspended in 1999, reinstated after 2002 parole violation

Hank Thompson retired from New York Giants Armed robbery 10 years served three years

Luis Polonia Detroit Tigers Sex with a minor 60 days served 60 days

Ugueth Urbina Philadelphia Phillies Attempted murder 14 years

Basketball
Greg "Cadillac" Anderson Retired drug trafficking five months

Billy Ray Bates Retired robbery; assault seven years

Lonny Baxter Mens Sana Basket (Italy), formerly with Charlotte Bobcats gun possession two months

Luther "Ticky" Burden released/retired (New York Knicks) receiving stolen property two years Originally sentenced to 6 to 18 years for Bank Robbery,[100] conviction was voided.

Corie Blount retired felony marijuana possession one year

Allen Iverson in high school maiming by mob five years pardoned by Governor after serving 4 months, conviction later overturned on appeal

Henry James retired dealing cocaine five years

"Fast" Eddie Johnson retired burglary, robbery, drug possession, sexual assault on a minor various, given life sentence in 2008

Jack Molinas Fort Wayne Pistons bribing players to fix games ten to fifteen years served five years.

Tom Payne Atlanta Hawks rape (multiple convictions) various, most recently sentenced to 15 years in 2000 Page at Kentucky DOC

Ruben Patterson Seattle Supersonics third degree rape 1 year served 15 days

Isaiah Rider retired (Minnesota Timberwolves) possession of cocaine, battery, evading a police officer seven months

Charles E. Smith Boston Celtics vehicular homicide 4½ years served 28 months

Sylvester "Sly" Williams retired kidnapping[114] five years released after serving 3½ years.

Ice hockey
Mike Danton St. Louis Blues conspiracy to commit murder 7½ years Has been released, is playing hockey for St Marys University in Halifax Nova Scotia Canada

Steve Durbano retired drug smuggling 7 years

Bob Probert Detroit Red Wings drug possession 90 days

Tom McCarthy retired conspiracy to traffic drugs five years and ten months served approx. 4 years in U.S. and Canada.

Craig MacTavish Boston Bruins vehicular homicide 1 year [183]

Boxing
Too Many To List

Huncrelan

After reading Doug's list maybe I'll reconsider the guy I refuse to collect.... He doesn't look so bad now... Ha

SOM

After reading Doug's list, I wonder who the heck is left to collect

lanemyer85

Todd Bertuzzi for criminal (and sackless) assault from behind.

Piggs

What about that Green Bay player? The name escapes me but I think he played tight end and got in trouble with a minor about 5 years ago.

grote15

What about that Green Bay player? The name escapes me but I think he played tight end and got in trouble with a minor about 5 years ago.

Mark Chmura, with the Superman tat on his bicep, LOL..

Stone193

<< <i>Do you collect players you don't like? >>

Yes.

Probstein123

Boxing
Too Many To List
==> this made me laugh, but can you just list the top ten maybe ?

otwcards

I've never really collected players that I don't like, but I've grown to not like some of the players that I've collected. I'm sure that some of the others that did the "penny stock" investing in the late 80's and early 90's can vouch for the likes of Alan Anderson, Sam Horn, Hensley Meulens, Roberto Petigine and my favorite Marc Newfield (all 25,000+ of them!).

SidePocket

Doug you missed Lawrence Taylor.

Garabaldi

Wow, that was a long list.

Estil

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<< <i>This thread gives me a genius idea. I'm gonna pitch to PSA the thought of having an "all bad guy" rookie registry set. We could all vote on who belongs in the registry. I'll start with a few:

Barry Bonds
OJ Simpson
Ty Cobb
Michael Vick
Plaxico Burress
Ray Lewis
Pete Rose
Terrell Owens
Dennis Rodman
Bill Laimbeer >>



corvette1340 >>



Don't forget the Dennis Rodman of Baseball, Albert Belle. I remember in one Beckett they compared him to Chucky, the killer doll.