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My 1909 vdb developed measles in my album.....:-(

coinsarefuncoinsarefun Posts: 21,757 ✭✭✭✭✭
Is it to late for poor ol' Abe?

I put him in my album all nice and spotless...........now he has the measlesimage

btw, it was RB and now its closer to BN. Maybe I should have slabbed it a few years back?


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  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,800 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Well, look on the bright side. At least it was not your SVDB that developed measles. image
  • llafoellafoe Posts: 7,220 ✭✭
    How many times have I told you to cover your mouth when you sneeze? image
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  • erickso1erickso1 Posts: 1,705 ✭✭✭
    Slab it ats. Punt w/ a blurry telescopic pic and be on your way. (Did I just get my thoughts and spoken word wires crossed again)
  • coinsarefuncoinsarefun Posts: 21,757 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Slab it ats. Punt w/ a blurry telescopic pic and be on your way. (Did I just get my thoughts and spoken word wires crossed again) >>






    lmaoimage
  • ecichlidecichlid Posts: 1,212 ✭✭✭
    I'm sorry about what happened to your coin.

    Would you tell me what type of album you stored the coin in? What part of the country do you reside in?
    There is no "AT" or "NT". We only have "market acceptable" or "not market acceptable.
  • GrumpyEdGrumpyEd Posts: 4,749 ✭✭✭
    Maybe it would have done it anyway even if it was in a slab.
    Probably had something on it, maybe if you gave it an acetone bath when you got it that would have stopped it.

    image

    Ed
  • GrumpyEdGrumpyEd Posts: 4,749 ✭✭✭
    I see this happen even in dry climates so I don't think it's always from moisture.




    << <i>What part of the country do you reside in >>

    Ed
  • robkoolrobkool Posts: 5,934 ✭✭✭✭✭
    image Living close to the ocean doesn't help either...
  • coinsarefuncoinsarefun Posts: 21,757 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>image Living close to the ocean doesn't help either... >>







    Exactly........I live a few miles from the beach in So. Cali.
    And I put it in a Dansco Album
  • WoodenJeffersonWoodenJefferson Posts: 6,491 ✭✭✭✭
    Residing that far from the Pacific Ocean with the prevailing winds blowing inshore 364 days out of the year, 1 day it's calm, you could have sealed that VDB in a mayonnaise jar and sat it on Funk & Wagnals porch and it still would have turned.
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  • LotsoLuckLotsoLuck Posts: 3,786 ✭✭✭
    Nooonnnesense, I live 400 yards from the ocean and much farther north from Stef, yep, someone did some sneezin' on that Linc image
  • coinsarefuncoinsarefun Posts: 21,757 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Nooonnnesense, I live 400 yards from the ocean and much farther north from Stef, yep, someone did some sneezin' on that Linc image >>







    I'm gonna.............image that guy who sneezed on my Lincoln
  • BigEBigE Posts: 6,949 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Nooonnnesense, I live 400 yards from the ocean and much farther north from Stef, yep, someone did some sneezin' on that Linc image >>







    I'm gonna.............image that guy who sneezed on my Lincoln >>





    Not sure it was a guy, guy ssneezes are usually fewer but larger----------BigE



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  • AuroraBorealisAuroraBorealis Posts: 3,591 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Years ago 1975 ish when we lived on the east end of Long Island right on a small lake..I had a buddy that owned a coin shop...He had a complete roll of bright mint red 1972 dd Lincolns that i opened and went through and picked the best one out...No BS it was without a doubt perfect and stunning bright red...I stored it in a hard plastic penny sized case that snapped together...Had it stashed in a cigar box with a bunch of other cool coins and hand me down coins...I hadn`t looked at those coins for perhaps a year and when i took them out that 72 dd had black dots all over it...Not exactly like yours Stef but more black looking dots...The Injuns that i had were BN`s and they were fine... All my silver stuff was also fine...I had always wondered if it was more to do with the metal or the high humidity where we lived and if it was the humidity why didn`t the other copper stuff do that...

    ABimage
  • pendragon1998pendragon1998 Posts: 2,070 ✭✭✭
    Dust or moisture on the plastic sleeve? Did you blow off the sleeve first? :-(
  • coinsarefuncoinsarefun Posts: 21,757 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Dust or moisture on the plastic sleeve? Did you blow off the sleeve first? :-( >>





    No, he went in dry. No dust, no blowing eitherimage

    None of my other Lincoln's have spotted like this. Maybe LotsoLuck was right, it was sneezed on before I bought it.
    I put it in the Dansco a year or so ago and looked tonight and saw this
  • LotsoLuckLotsoLuck Posts: 3,786 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Dust or moisture on the plastic sleeve? Did you blow off the sleeve first? :-( >>





    No, he went in dry. No dust, no blowing eitherimage

    None of my other Lincoln's have spotted like this. Maybe LotsoLuck was right, it was sneezed on before I bought it.
    I put it in the Dansco a year or so ago and looked tonight and saw this >>




    Hmmmm, I dont know, both sides? Does look like carbon spots though.
  • AuroraBorealisAuroraBorealis Posts: 3,591 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Darn it that bites Stef...Too bad...

    ABimage
  • relicsncoinsrelicsncoins Posts: 8,106 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nothing to lose now...........See what MS70 will do to it.
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  • coinsarefuncoinsarefun Posts: 21,757 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Nothing to lose now...........See what MS70 will do to it. >>




    I don't even own MS70, the strongest I have is Acetone
    And, that won't do anything to itimage
  • ecichlidecichlid Posts: 1,212 ✭✭✭
    If it's only one of many coppers that spotted, may not be environmental, but I had to ask. I have no clue really. A sneeze is as good as a guess as any. The environment could have brought out the worst in that coin after being exposed to contaminants.

    That being said, I don't think I would collect red copper in your neck of the woods unless the coins went into a sealed container with the proper precautions. I have had both Lincoln copper and other coins that were stored in the Chicago area for 25 years. Some of them did not fair well. None had that spotting though. I keep my 7070 in the slipcase for its anti-corrosion characteristics, do you do the same with your copper?

    There is no "AT" or "NT". We only have "market acceptable" or "not market acceptable.
  • coinsarefuncoinsarefun Posts: 21,757 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>If it's only one of many coppers that spotted, may not be environmental, but I had to ask. I have no clue really. A sneeze is as good as a guess as any. The environment could have brought out the worst in that coin after being exposed to contaminants.

    That being said, I don't think I would collect red copper in your neck of the woods unless the coins went into a sealed container with the proper precautions. I have had both Lincoln copper and other coins that were stored in the Chicago area for 25 years. Some of them did not fair well. None had that spotting though. I keep my 7070 in the slipcase for its anti-corrosion characteristics, do you do the same with your copper? >>







    No, just the Dansco in my safe


  • melvin289melvin289 Posts: 3,019


    << <i>Years ago 1975 ish when we lived on the east end of Long Island right on a small lake..I had a buddy that owned a coin shop...He had a complete roll of bright mint red 1972 dd Lincolns that i opened and went through and picked the best one out...No BS it was without a doubt perfect and stunning bright red...I stored it in a hard plastic penny sized case that snapped together...Had it stashed in a cigar box with a bunch of other cool coins and hand me down coins...I hadn`t looked at those coins for perhaps a year and when i took them out that 72 dd had black dots all over it...Not exactly like yours Stef but more black looking dots...The Injuns that i had were BN`s and they were fine... All my silver stuff was also fine...I had always wondered if it was more to do with the metal or the high humidity where we lived and if it was the humidity why didn`t the other copper stuff do that...

    ABimage >>



    AB,

    And apologies to Stef for doing this in her thread. I put 2 rolls, in plastic tubes, of 54-S, floating S, in a cigar box until I got around to putting them where they belonged. When I got around to them the lid had come off the tubes and the coins that had spilled out were blue, almost black. I was sick. What I am saying is it could have been the cigar box.

    Ron
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  • coinsarefuncoinsarefun Posts: 21,757 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Years ago 1975 ish when we lived on the east end of Long Island right on a small lake..I had a buddy that owned a coin shop...He had a complete roll of bright mint red 1972 dd Lincolns that i opened and went through and picked the best one out...No BS it was without a doubt perfect and stunning bright red...I stored it in a hard plastic penny sized case that snapped together...Had it stashed in a cigar box with a bunch of other cool coins and hand me down coins...I hadn`t looked at those coins for perhaps a year and when i took them out that 72 dd had black dots all over it...Not exactly like yours Stef but more black looking dots...The Injuns that i had were BN`s and they were fine... All my silver stuff was also fine...I had always wondered if it was more to do with the metal or the high humidity where we lived and if it was the humidity why didn`t the other copper stuff do that...

    ABimage >>



    AB,

    And apologies to Stef for doing this in her thread. I put 2 rolls, in plastic tubes, of 54-S, floating S, in a cigar box until I got around to putting them where they belonged. When I got around to them the lid had come off the tubes and the coins that had spilled out were blue, almost black. I was sick. What I am saying is it could have been the cigar box.

    Ron >>






    Well, I gues I don't feel so bad now.......mine is minor compared to you guysimage
  • melvin289melvin289 Posts: 3,019
    It seems that coins left in albums that develope spots or corrosion are always the better coins. There should be a law named to cover this like Murphy's Law.

    We can name it after you. For lack of better wording -

    "Stefanie's Law"
    If a coin can tarnish or spot it will be one of your better coins.


    Ron
    Collect for the love of the hobby, the beauty of the coins, and enjoy the ride.
  • coinsarefuncoinsarefun Posts: 21,757 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>It seems that coins left in albums that develope spots or corrosion are always the better coins. There should be a law named to cover this like Murphy's Law.

    We can name it after you. For lack of better wording -

    "Stefanie's Law"
    If a coin can tarnish or spot it will be one of your better coins.


    Ron >>





    That name only applies to me in my field of work. I am a general contractor, well architect/ Design/build contractor.
    And I always tell them its "Stefanie law" or leaveimageimage
  • Tdec1000Tdec1000 Posts: 3,852 ✭✭✭
    You should get some desiccant...the kind that you can recharge in the oven when it is over saturated. The coin is probably too far gone but I bet it would be an interesting job for NCS if you were to try it.
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  • halfhunterhalfhunter Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭
    If a sneeze was the culprit, looks like they did a pretty good job of spraying both sides ! ! ! image

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  • It's this type of thing that has made me quit collecting anything copper. There's just to much chance that a higher-grade coin will turn without warning. Maybe it's the oils (yuk!) that keep the more circulated copper coins from doing this, I don't know. I've seen lots of uncirculated '09vdbs with spotting though.
  • ambro51ambro51 Posts: 13,949 ✭✭✭✭✭
    too bad. old surface contamination is impossible to detect and I suppose the album added in the factor that made it activate and discolor.

    I hate old red copper now also. Very nervous about it. My best pieces are now sealed up in jars with about 20 dessicant packs each. Takes up more room but its very cheap insurance (hopefully). I had most wrapped in aluminum foil but changed to glass jars. (both slabbed and raw 'good' copper)
  • llafoellafoe Posts: 7,220 ✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Darn it that bites Stef...Too bad...

    ABimage >>




    Ya, he WAS a good lookin' guy when I put him in thereimage >>



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  • poorguypoorguy Posts: 4,317
    Yikes, looks like someone was talking over the coin while it was exposed. I have a friend who collects old MLB press pins. When he went to buy a group of them from a dealer, the dealer had them out on a table right in front of him and he was yapping and talking away. This dealer may very well have been Sylvester the cat BTW. When my buddy took them out years later, almost all of them had nasty spots on them. He laid them out in the same orientation they were in at the dealer's shop and it was obvious. Basically, the closest ones to Sylvester's mouth were the spottiest flowing out into a gradient of tapering spots the farther away they were from him. Raw fresh coins? HOLD YOUR BREATH and DON'T TALK! image
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  • tahoe98tahoe98 Posts: 11,388 ✭✭✭

    ...i think this is just another casualty we can blame the japanese radiation on. image
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  • ambro51ambro51 Posts: 13,949 ✭✭✭✭✭
    ...they would sit together in small groups, cigars, brandy.....trays of their finest coins spread upon an ornate pool table, comendeered fro the occasion. Collectors of the Past, bewhiskered, monocoled gentlemen of the upper crusts of society. Hoi Polloi...learned in the works of the God Numisma....together they would wonder and glean over the prizes of others, brought from their own mahogany cabinets just for the occasion of this learned get together.'

    Roast Chestnuts were served. The Butler, Andrew, brought them in. Wrapped in thinly sliced canadian bacon they were...ohhhhh just SO good. Ahh....later, a fine dinner. Venison, of Course, the finest cuts from the hunting trip made by Lawrence, who had taken the fine stag on the slopes of a gentle rise in British Columbia.

    Yum, it was all so good.
    Later, more brandy, of course,,,,this time, the members of The Coin Club for Gentlemen drank from the private stock of Allen, who collected bust half dimes....some 1809 Cognac...Ahhh Yum, so good.


    We marvelled at the stunning 1909 VDB cent that Quinten had just gotten from the steps of the US Mint in Philadelphia. He spent twenty five cents for it, but was one of the VERY FIRST we know of who has actual posession of the coin itself.

    Modern, in a way, the bust is a rendidtion done by Victor Brenner, a Jewish sculptor now in this country and is paired with a stylized feather or wheat chaff.

    Craig, admiring the coin.....sneezed.
  • llafoellafoe Posts: 7,220 ✭✭


    << <i>HOLD YOUR BREATH and DON'T TALK! image >>



    If only I had a Morgan dollar for everytime a woman has made this comment to me... I'd be a co-owner of Legend! image
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  • coinsarefuncoinsarefun Posts: 21,757 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>HOLD YOUR BREATH and DON'T TALK! image >>



    If only I had a Morgan dollar for everytime a woman has made this comment to me... I'd be a co-owner of Legend! image >>




    Sound adviceimageimageimage
  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 29,232 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Well, look on the bright side. At least it was not your SVDB that developed measles. image >>



    no kidding. wouldnt that be the ultimate bummer
  • poorguypoorguy Posts: 4,317


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    << <i>HOLD YOUR BREATH and DON'T TALK! image >>



    If only I had a Morgan dollar for everytime a woman has made this comment to me... I'd be a co-owner of Legend! image >>




    Sound adviceimageimageimage >>



    HA. image
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  • coinsarefuncoinsarefun Posts: 21,757 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>

    << <i>HOLD YOUR BREATH and DON'T TALK! image >>



    If only I had a Morgan dollar for everytime a woman has made this comment to me... I'd be a co-owner of Legend! image >>




    Sound adviceimageimageimage >>



    HA. image >>





    Oh ya...........just ask any womanimageimageimage


    Stefanie

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