Worth a crack and resubmit? Couple of 74 Winfields...

Bosox1976 · March 24, 2011 9:27AM

From back in the day evidently....

handyman · March 24, 2011 9:31AM

oh yeah!

WinPitcher · March 24, 2011 9:32AM

I think so. Especially the one on the right. The one on the left, I dunno.

Bosox1976 · March 24, 2011 9:34AM

Both look like somebody toyed with the notion but thought better of it (frosting)...

WinPitcher · March 24, 2011 9:38AM

I didn't look at the cases, just the cards. You have them in hand?

If so, I'd try the one on the right, nothing to lose at this point.

Steve

OAKESY25 · March 24, 2011 9:39AM

4 sure

Bosox1976 · March 24, 2011 9:39AM

Yes - paid about $17 each. Nothing really to lose, although each have a touch on bottom right corner.

DavidPuddy · March 24, 2011 9:40AM

I think you can go straight 7, 8 on those. Nice cards.

hhmag70 · March 24, 2011 9:45AM

Crackem!

Hallco · March 24, 2011 9:49AM

I don't really see where either one is OC according to PSA grading standards. The one on the left has the tilt on the back, could that be enough to get a qualifier????? Did they have different guidelines at the time these were graded?

itzagoner · March 24, 2011 9:49AM

win win.

mexpo75 · March 24, 2011 9:52AM

I am a chicken when it comes to cracking, but I think you should with these.

WinPitcher · March 24, 2011 9:54AM

Mike

Another option is to send the one on the right for a review.

That way they can see that it already was graded as an 8.

Good luck.

Steve

Bosox1976 · March 24, 2011 9:55AM

NM-MT 8: Near Mint-Mint
A PSA NM-MT 8 is a super high-end card that appears Mint 9 at first glance, but upon closer inspection, the card can exhibit the following: a very slight wax stain on reverse, slightest fraying at one or two corners, a minor printing imperfection, and/or slightly off-white borders. Centering must be approximately 65/35 to 70/30 or better on the front and 90/10 or better on the reverse.

OC (Off Center):
When the centering of the card falls below the minimum standard for that grade will be designated "OC." PSA determines centering by comparing the measurements of the borders from left to right and top to bottom. The centering is designated as the percent of difference at the most off-center part of the card. A 5% leeway is given to the front centering minimum standards for cards which grade NM 7 or better. For example, a card that meets all of the other requirements for PSA MINT 9 and measures 60/40 off-center on the front automatically meets the PSA front centering standards for MINT 9. If a card meets all of the other requirements for PSA MINT 9 and measures 65/35 off-center on the front, it may be deemed to meet the PSA front centering standards for MINT 9 if the eye appeal of the card is good.

Edit: I take this to mean 95/5 at the worst point would be OK given the front centering. Or not? I guess that extra 5% is front only?

Bosox1976 · March 24, 2011 10:05AM

Thanks guys. I probably didn't need too much convincing anyway...

jswieton · March 24, 2011 10:19AM

How the heck did the one on the right get a OC ???

Garabaldi · March 24, 2011 10:50AM

I just don't see an (OC) on the front of either one.

Bosox1976 · March 24, 2011 10:58AM

Me either. I knew there would be a back problem, so they were a pleasant surprise. Please ignore the white dust in the first scan - it was on the glass.

ShootyBabitt · March 24, 2011 11:01AM

Good job breaking the Daves out of prison. I see two straight 8s.

lwehlers · March 24, 2011 11:06AM

the top one might get a 8.5.

Dboneesq · March 24, 2011 11:22AM

Good luck Mike ... Think you made the right move!

Garabaldi · March 24, 2011 11:24AM

They look better out of the holders.

Stone193 · March 24, 2011 11:53AM

Good luck Mike.

If this is an 8 NQ - can't see why not.

But, why not just send them in for a review? You could wind up with the grader from hell.

miconelegacy · March 24, 2011 11:57AM

Those are real nice. Hope we have some from the packs coming.

I would say the one with centering issue on back 7.5-8

The other is sharp, straight 8, maybe 8.5

Good Luck!

bobbybakeriv · March 25, 2011 12:41AM

Most definitely. I'd crack 'em just to get rid of the ugly font alone.

DavidPuddy · March 25, 2011 12:49AM

<< <i>Most definitely. I'd crack 'em just to get rid of the ugly font alone.

>>

+1

CrazyMind2017 · March 25, 2011 12:50AM

Hate to say it, but the one on the left is going to come back with the same grade and same qualifier. I would have called customer service to ask if they could reholder it with a new label to get rid of the ugly font and just keep the grade the way it is. There's a chance it might come back with a lower number grade cracking it out. The back centering is worse than 90/10 in the worst spot, and the tilt kills whatever eye appeal it may have had. The upside is that you could request no qualifiers when resubmitting it, and it might come back as high as 7-NQ.

The one on the right should come back 8-NQ. It never should have been given the qualifier in the first place.

packCollector · March 25, 2011 12:55AM

from what i have seen over the last couple of years, neither gets a qualifier. if the corners are good enough , you have at least straight 8's.

Bosox1976 · April 13, 2011 6:33AM

35 1 18306194 NEAR MINT-MINT+ 8.5 1974 TOPPS 456 DAVE WINFIELD Card US

39 1 18306198 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1974 TOPPS 456 DAVE WINFIELD Card US

Dboneesq · April 13, 2011 6:39AM

<< <i>

35 1 18306194 NEAR MINT-MINT+ 8.5 1974 TOPPS 456 DAVE WINFIELD Card US
39 1 18306198 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1974 TOPPS 456 DAVE WINFIELD Card US >>

WTG MIKE! Now THAT'S MUCH better! Went from 2 $20 cards to a $55.00 card and an $80.00 card!