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tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,200 ✭✭✭✭✭
...which will surely be contained in this thread, I will reveal the 4 coins that I kept from the recently completed type deal. Each is spectacular in its own way. There were many other coins in the deal but I don't collect those series or already had a superb specimen.

1) The Mickley specimen S-1 Ameri Chain Cent. Graded SP65BN by PCGS. Quite possibly the first coin ever struck at the US Mint. Beautiful life to the coin with semi prooflike mirrors, swirling luster and mint sheen on the devices.

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2) PCGS PR65 1853 Arrows and Rays half. The finest of only 5 known. I had recently purchased an MS65+ for my type set, but this coin is definitely something spectacular so I kept it over the circulation strike.

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3) The Eliasberg 1799/8 dollar. Graded MS65 by PCGS [MS66 by NGC]. Finest known for the overdate. Beautiful iridescent toning on top of swirling luster.

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4) The finest known orignal issue Gobrecht dollar of any date or type. Graded PR66 by PCGS. Absolutely stunning quality with iridescent sheen on the devices and partial cartwheel luster on the reverse.

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Each of these coins epitomizes what I want to have in my collection. After completing the trade dollar and seated dollar sets, I've struggled with what to collect next. I gravitate toward two things - type and bust dollars. The problem with bust dollars is that the set just can't be done in spectacular condition - the Pogues have all the finest knowns, the balance are locked away in type collections and I hesitate to have gems next to AU's in any set. The problem with doing a type set is that I just don't care about the later issues ... and spectacular early issues are as rare as hen's teeth. So... what I've decided to do is to ignore completion of any set and just collect spectacular early coins that speak to me. Those are what I desire to own and I'm going to try to resist the urge to buy whatever to complete a set. We'll see how long that lasts! lol
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  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 35,854 ✭✭✭✭✭
    these could go on a calendar....

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  • llafoellafoe Posts: 7,220 ✭✭
    You have 1 week to go... don't get carried away responding to people in this thread! image
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  • TomBTomB Posts: 22,079 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Spectacular coins, and I found the following to be quite wise-

    "I've decided to do is to ignore completion of any set and just collect spectacular early coins that speak to me. Those are what I desire to own and I'm going to try to resist the urge to buy whatever to complete a set."
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  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Each of these coins epitomizes what I want to have in my collection. After completing the trade dollar and seated dollar sets, I've struggled with what to collect next. I gravitate toward two things - type and bust dollars. The problem with bust dollars is that the set just can't be done in spectacular condition - the Pogues have all the finest knowns, the balance are locked away in type collections and I hesitate to have gems next to AU's in any set. The problem with doing a type set is that I just don't care about the later issues ... and spectacular early issues are as rare as hen's teeth. So... what I've decided to do is to ignore completion of any set and just collect spectacular early coins that speak to me. Those are what I desire to own and I'm going to try to resist the urge to buy whatever to complete a set. We'll see how long that lasts! lol >>



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  • 123cents123cents Posts: 7,178 ✭✭✭
    I could look at that chain cent all day long. It is fantastic!!image
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  • llafoellafoe Posts: 7,220 ✭✭


    << <i>I could look at that chain cent all day long. It is fantastic!!image >>



    Look at it in CoinFacts... it's larger than life! image
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  • tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,200 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I couldn't figure out how to link the medium sized versions of the true view images. These little ones just aren't the best - sorry!
  • SwampboySwampboy Posts: 13,109 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Amazing.

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  • SwampboySwampboy Posts: 13,109 ✭✭✭✭✭
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  • tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,200 ✭✭✭✭✭
    My favorite coins that I didn't keep from the type deal were:

    1900 Liberty $10 PR67DCAM
    1907 High Relief $20 MS67
    1894 Morgan $1 PR68+DCAM
    1912 $20 Matte PF67
  • tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,200 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Aha! Thanks, Swampboy! Those are soooo much better!
  • llafoellafoe Posts: 7,220 ✭✭


    << <i>My favorite coins that I didn't keep from the type deal were:

    1900 Liberty $10 PR67DCAM
    1907 High Relief $20 MS67
    1894 Morgan $1 PR68+DCAM
    1912 $20 Matte PF67 >>



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  • tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,200 ✭✭✭✭✭
    They didn't speak to you?

    They did - but I do have a budget. And I don't really collect gold - tho those would have been a great start.
  • llafoellafoe Posts: 7,220 ✭✭


    << <i>They didn't speak to you?

    They did - but I do have a budget. And I don't really collect gold - tho those would have been a great start. >>



    That 1894 Morgan must be a very special gold dollar... wait, don't answer that again! imageimage
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  • tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,200 ✭✭✭✭✭
    lol - white Morgan's make me go 'eh'. Tho if I was gonna own one, that was the one!
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  • JRoccoJRocco Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Absolutely gorgeous coins TDN
    Each and every one.
    Liberty looks like silk on that Gobrecht dollar.
    Beautiful.
    Thanks for sharing these.
    Some coins are just plain "Interesting"
  • bidaskbidask Posts: 14,028 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I couldn't figure out how to link the medium sized versions of the true view images. These little ones just aren't the best - sorry! >>

    how would you rate the Mickley speciman against the ngc 67 brown speciman?
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  • MonstavetMonstavet Posts: 1,235 ✭✭
    For anyone who read my recent lament on attempting to complete a Type set, it is pretty cool to know that even a great collector like TDN feels uncertainty about where to go with one's collection. I am now decided on going only with the coins that speak to me rather than following someone else's rules. It is actually a very liberating feeling.

    Admitedly, my coins speak in a LOT smaller voice than the fine examples TDN shows us here. Truly spectacular stuff! I guess we've come to expect no less from our esteemed forum member!

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  • PQueuePQueue Posts: 901 ✭✭✭
    All PQ. image Thanks for sharing, makes logging on worthwhile. I'll submit that collecting spectacular early coins that speak to you is in essence type collecting, perhaps not a type set, but you end up with a nice variety of spectacular types.
  • tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,200 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>how would you rate the Mickley speciman against the ngc 67 brown speciman? >>



    I have never seen the NGC BN coin. However, I would state unequivocably that the Mickley specimen is worth quite a bit more. Factors that go into that statement are the Ameri variety is rarer, the specimen status is evident, the brand of plastic is correct ... and the chance that it could be the first coin struck at the US Mint the stuff that dreams are made of. The main reason this coin isn't a 67 is that the planchet is quite rough ... there aren't that many post striking impairments.
  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,313 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nice job TDN. It would be interesting how the owner decided to sell at this time. Did you/Legend make him an offer he couldn't refuse? image

    Just don't let Ricko anywhere near those coins.

    Another convert to the box of 20 methodology. I'm fine with that. image
    Most sets these days in the finest condition are either beyond the mean's of almost all collectors, or as you said, the coins will never be available.
    You struck lightning with your 2 dollars sets. Doing that for a 3rd time would be very difficult. I'm not even sure where one could go today in
    a series with at least a few dozen issues required.

    The 1853 proof half almost has the look of the Evergreen coins.

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  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,556 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Hey TDN...reply to me...reply to me.....I wanna be your 20000th image

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  • llafoellafoe Posts: 7,220 ✭✭


    << <i>Hey TDN...reply to me...reply to me.....I wanna be your 20000th image >>



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  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,556 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Hey TDN...reply to me...reply to me.....I wanna be your 20000th image >>



    WOW! That's more than Kareem Abdul-Jabbar! image >>



    But not as many was Wilt the Stilt image

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  • numobrinumobri Posts: 1,473 ✭✭✭


    Being just a little guy,

    Nice coins.image

    Buying coins that TALK to you,is cool.

    Buying early dollars that TALK to you is even cooler. IMO


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  • BBQnBLUESBBQnBLUES Posts: 1,803
    Made me Drool !!

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  • breakdownbreakdown Posts: 2,258 ✭✭✭✭✭
    There's many days go by when I don't check the forum and miss a lot of threads. I am glad I didn't miss this one -- what a quartet of coins. If I am allowed to pick a favorite, I would choose the Gobrecht. Ay caramba! Thanks for sharing. image

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  • llafoellafoe Posts: 7,220 ✭✭


    << <i>Made me Drool !!

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    You have great toning! image
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  • DennisHDennisH Posts: 14,011 ✭✭✭✭✭
    To be able to see these coins is a special and much-appreciated treat.
    Thank you so much for sharing!!
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  • cameron12xcameron12x Posts: 1,384 ✭✭✭


    << <i>these could go on a calendar....

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    They could also go in the Smithsonian! image
  • joebb21joebb21 Posts: 4,771 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Will anything be on display at Baltimore?
    may the fonz be with you...always...
  • illini420illini420 Posts: 11,466 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think the proof arrows & rays is pretty darn cool image

    and of course the others are too image
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    OMG (like a little school girl might say it)
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  • tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,200 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Ok - so here's the reason that I ended up with that coin. The guy and I were millions of dollars apart and I'd come up as far as I thought I could. I'd polled several experts in the field and the value range was $1.25M to $1.5M for the coin. My own gut told me $1.5M ... but I also knew that everytime you buy a great coin that you have to feel like you overpaid. You never get a great coin cheap. So I was willing to stretch to $1.75M and told him so - which put us within shooting distance on the whole deal. When he countered at a number that made me figure the coin at $1.9M, I accepted. Did I overpay? It's all relative - overpaid according to the price guide yet I've been offered a profit since and have great satisfaction in owning the coin.

    Sometimes opportunity is more important than price. For the types of coins I wish to own, that's the definite truth. And almost always, no matter what you pay for a PQ coin, it's still cheaper on a quality basis than paying less than guide for the next grade up - unless of course you can imagine yourself paying that amount for the higher grade coin in a + lower grade holder. Lessons learned for #20,000.
  • AmigoAmigo Posts: 966

    Wow a thousand times over. Incredible is such an understatement.

    TDN, I would like to know something if you care to share. Perhaps I missed the news release or something. But how in the world did you two end up being neighbors and not know it. How is it possible for that caliber of coins to be owned by someone that you and Laura didn't realize who they were ? Or was the term "neighbor" used loosely, and you two just happen to live in the same city instead of same block. I'd be real curious to hear more of the details about how you two began talking about coins. That must've seemed like a twlight moment when you realized the quality of coins he had.

    Thanks
  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
    My eyes just sort of popped out of my skull...........Damn you TDN


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  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Bruce

    Three questions.

    1) Do all the coins from this collection reside in the same slabs as purchased? I didn't read all the posts or other threads so please forgive me if this has been asked and answered already.

    2) Did you take advantage of the 4 month payment plan Legend offers?

    3) You did remember to use your employee discount, right?

    Just trying to help a brother out.

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  • RB1026RB1026 Posts: 1,487 ✭✭✭✭
    Exquisite sir, simply exquisite. Thank you for sharing. Congratulations!!

    Roger
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  • crypto79crypto79 Posts: 8,623
    Congratulations, this forum is the one that is 20,000 post richer for your contributions. Thank you for sharing as you stated,"coins that dreams are made of" yet again.
  • krankykranky Posts: 8,709 ✭✭✭
    Bruce, appreciate your contributions that got you to 20k posts. Those coins are marvelous. Each is an example of where grade is not that important, because early coins that look like these are absolutely special in any case.

    New collectors, please educate yourself before spending money on coins; there are people who believe that using numismatic knowledge to rip the naïve is what this hobby is all about.

  • sparky64sparky64 Posts: 7,047 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm speechless and very happy for you, TDN.

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  • poorguypoorguy Posts: 4,317
    AWESOME COINS! Congrats on 20k. image
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  • pontiacinfpontiacinf Posts: 8,915 ✭✭
    very very nice Bruce.

    somehow I cannot see those coins with anyone but you.
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  • WindycityWindycity Posts: 3,547 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Wow! Wonderful coins!
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  • TevaTeva Posts: 830
    Worth waiting to see thats for sure.
    Envy would be a under statement of
    how looking at those coins makes me
    feel. Congradulation on your 20,000
    posts thats a milestone at my rate of
    posting it would take me 25 years
    to accumulate that many posts.image
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  • StaircoinsStaircoins Posts: 2,577 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Sometimes opportunity is more important than price. >>

    A valuable lesson, this. I have found it to be true in my own little numismatic niche as well.

    Thanks for sharing these beauties. I, too, am particularly enamoured by that gorgeous Mickley cent. (Although I thought that the first coins struck were the 1792 half dismes. No?)




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