1978 topps psa 10
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two psa 10 commons that are both over $300.00 with about a hour to go. both are pop 1's. Jackson todd, and Wayne Nordhagen. thought i would pass this along to the forum. I would post the links but i dont know how to do it without typing in all those letters and #'s (computer illiterate lol)
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<< <i>If they end there it'll be a bargain >>
possibly over $500.00?
<< <i>Thanks for sharing, I love watching rare cards pop!!! >>
yw!!! same here!!
Just goes to show you that in certain situations, auctions are way the best option.
<< <i>These puppies are starting to fly!! A Vance Law 84 Donruss went for near $700 last week, lets see some crazy numbers out of these!!! >>
Jackson Todd must be a b.i.t.c.h to find centered...lmao!!
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Is there no difference between stars and commons anymore? I assume there is a low population of Vance Law and other commons because no one sends them in to be graded. What am I missing here? I was about to get rid of 1000s of 80s-90s commons taking up room in my basement. Now I wonder if they are worth more than the All Stars of era.
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<< <i>I really hope the guy that lost goes and spends the $1350 on a nice Hank Aaron RC or something. JEEPERS! Who cares about Jackson Todd?! >>
I'm guessing Geordie is taking that money saved and is currently in Reno getting a massage.
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If not that makes the ending price is even more incredible
It may be a waste of money but long term if none surface you have something all of the others can't get there hands on. It takes a ton of money and patience to collect a 1978 Topps baseball set in Gem Mint. There have been over 100,000 cards graded so there is a big collector interest.
The crazy thing though is the Pop 2 card sold for like $180 telling us one of the two top bidders already had the card.
There are worse things you can blow your money on and having the perfect set is a really cool thing and I sure they get a ton of personal satisfaction out of it.
Congrats to the seller is in order!!!
<< <i>I can totally understand these guys blowing big money on these cards. I would not personally but if you had collected a 726 card set and are missing just a few cards in PSA 10 then go for it.
It may be a waste of money but long term if none surface you have something all of the others can't get there hands on. It takes a ton of money and patience to collect a 1978 Topps baseball set in Gem Mint. There have been over 100,000 cards graded so there is a big collector interest.
The crazy thing though is the Pop 2 card sold for like $180 telling us one of the two top bidders already had the card.
There are worse things you can blow your money on and having the perfect set is a really cool thing and I sure they get a ton of personal satisfaction out of it.
Congrats to the seller is in order!!! >>
I disagree that they'll get a bunch of satisfaction out of it. I'm curious if other collectors are like me...when they finish a set it's right on to the next project. Every time I finish a set or autograph project this happens to me.
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The top guy looks to have held the top spot for a while. I doubt he has any interest in giving it up. There is ego involved in the registry, don't forget that.
I tend to move past some of my projects once completed or when they are at a point of stalemate. Sure, I could look to upgrade or expand (and I still do), but not with the same passion and verve that got me to the point where the set hits a wall... They're still there and the enjoyment is still their. It is just that the passionate effort and expenditure to continue to build it to another level wanes.
The number one set belongs to Virgel Adkins and so does the number three. I gaurentee you he is thrilled to own the top spot and the number three spot. I promise you he tells people and perhaps has them displayed.
Yes he may have moved on to a new set, we don't know that but can speculate, but I promise he gets a huge amount of satisfaction knowing he has these cards.
The thrill of the chase can be fun but also very stressful. I doubt the buyer of these cards is thrilled to pay nearly $1,400 for cards that in NM sell for less then $1. But he wanted them and has already put a ton of money and effort into his set.
I personally think it is awesome that a lottery ticket was found in a pack or set. All of these modern insert cards are artificially atempting to reduce supply and increase price. Just think how many of these cards someone has looked at and realized it would grade an 8 and put it back in their stack or box. These are truelly rare items and I think that is great.
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<< <i>Is there no difference between stars and commons anymore? >>
Some people like to collect PSA graded slabs. To them, the face on the card is irrelevant, it's the number in the red and white label that they're looking at.
<< <i>it's an investment as well. >>
I don't have a VCP account anymore, but maybe someone's already done this research: are there any examples of a Pop 1 from the any of the heavily collected 70s sets maintaining its high price after it gets sold a second time? How about after it ceases to be a pop 1?
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<< <i>I'm guessing that Michael's point is more about the chase to complete and the competition. Once completed, or once the challenge is removed, interest typically gets directed elsewhere. I cannot imagine someone collecting such a large set as the '78 set and reviewing it on a regular basis.
I tend to move past some of my projects once completed or when they are at a point of stalemate. Sure, I could look to upgrade or expand (and I still do), but not with the same passion and verve that got me to the point where the set hits a wall... They're still there and the enjoyment is still their. It is just that the passionate effort and expenditure to continue to build it to another level wanes. >>
Captured what I was trying to say precisely, Scott. I once had the #2 Carlton Fisk player set. Then I started having to spend $100+ on 1992 Pinnacle cards and realized that as soon as the project was done my satisfaction level wouldn't be worth the money I was investing. Frankly, it's kind of why I moved into autograph collecting. It's pretty much one big uncompletable project (or a series of little projects). Now if I see one of the 5-6 Fisk's that I don't have I may bid but the vigor isn't there to spend $100 on $0.10 cards because I know they'll eventually end up in the closet and the value can only decrease.
That guy that spent $1300 on that card...if TWO more pop as 10's (which seems fairly likely) his card will have lost about 90% of the money he paid for it. Why not wait on it?
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Based on his post in the 78 thread, Hatch was not the winning bidder on any of the three cards. Nhis words, "I got run over".
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Any number of these cards can meet the 'right opinion'.
What is rare is finding a card that will get some guy, whom you don't even know, to subjectively believe that it falls within the artificial(and ever evolving) standards for a Gem Mint 10; of which there are a handful of companies that are as qualified as each other to give equal assessments...but if you get the one company that keeps track of all the grades to give that grade, it is 'worth' much much more.
<< <i>These cards are NOT rare.
Any number of these cards can meet the 'right opinion'.
What is rare is finding a card that will get some guy, whom you don't even know, to subjectively believe that it falls within the artificial(and ever evolving) standards for a Gem Mint 10; of which there are a handful of companies that are as qualified as each other to give equal assessments...but if you get the one company that keeps track of all the grades to give that grade, it is 'worth' much much more. >>
Well, when you put it like that....
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How about this for a scary thought? How much do you think that buyer has spent chasing that card in PSA 10? How many packs do you think he ripped and raw cards he submitted?
I've been there. For example, when I was trying to get a PSA 10 1985 Topps Cal Ripken Jr. #30. This is a Pop 15, but still sells consistently for over $300 (I should know, I just bought one for $311.11). The truth is, I've spent WELL OVER $300 chasing down that ONE CARD, from buying raw cards at shows and on ebay, to busting wax/rack/vending boxes.
So let's get back to Mr. Jackson Todd. How much wax do you have to bust before you find a sharp, centered, non-smudged Jackson Todd, at over $400 per box? A case of them? Sure you're also pulling other cards that would make up for some the expenses, but I've two 1978 boxes in my day, and they never came close to making a profit.
Let's not even talk about the Nolan Ryan #400 (Pop ZERO). That would fetch well over $10k.
The Set Registry is a hellova drug...
Take a card where there are a million copies of it. Assign arbitrary guidelines to make it where less and less meet the ever changing criteria(where there is a very subjective element in determining if it meets the criteria), and then make it a bragging war so people can spend thousands on it.
You certainly may very well spend thousands trying to get one in psa 10 via opening packs. It is your money, do what you want with it.
If my kid spent that much money on something that is artificially rare, I would slap him in the head.
I think if PSA offered a 9.5 grade like Beckett, that would make the 10 much more meaningful. In the short time I've been collecting graded cards (only about 4 months now) I've seen enough PSA 10s that look worse than a lot of 9s. I understand the allure of owning a "perfect" card, but many 10s are far from perfect. When the price difference between a 9 and a 10 is a few dollars, it's no big deal, but when the difference is in the thousands, people get ridiculous, and by ridiculous, I mean insanely stupid. Even if $1400 is not a lot of money to somebody, that money could still serve a much greater purpose than feeding someone's ego by wasting it on a piece of cardboard that is not substantially different than other pieces of cardboard that are available for 1/10 of the price or less.
<< <i>The difference in quality between a 10 and a good or even decent 9 is so negligible in most cases that it shouldn't affect people the way it does. In most cases, we're talking about a few extra micrometers of cardboard in an area of the card that doesn't even contain any printed information. Sometimes a really good 8 can look as nice as a 10.
I think if PSA offered a 9.5 grade like Beckett, that would make the 10 much more meaningful. In the short time I've been collecting graded cards (only about 4 months now) I've seen enough PSA 10s that look worse than a lot of 9s. I understand the allure of owning a "perfect" card, but many 10s are far from perfect. When the price difference between a 9 and a 10 is a few dollars, it's no big deal, but when the difference is in the thousands, people get ridiculous, and by ridiculous, I mean insanely stupid. Even if $1400 is not a lot of money to somebody, that money could still serve a much greater purpose than feeding someone's ego by wasting it on a piece of cardboard that is not substantially different than other pieces of cardboard that are available for 1/10 of the price or less. >>
Well if the discussion is whether the money could be better spent on a greater purpose, then should ANY of us be collecting? This smacks of some sort of "rich people shouldn't have so much money" position rather than one about the artificial market for cards.
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<< <i>The difference in quality between a 10 and a good or even decent 9 is so negligible in most cases that it shouldn't affect people the way it does. In most cases, we're talking about a few extra micrometers of cardboard in an area of the card that doesn't even contain any printed information. Sometimes a really good 8 can look as nice as a 10.
I think if PSA offered a 9.5 grade like Beckett, that would make the 10 much more meaningful. In the short time I've been collecting graded cards (only about 4 months now) I've seen enough PSA 10s that look worse than a lot of 9s. I understand the allure of owning a "perfect" card, but many 10s are far from perfect. When the price difference between a 9 and a 10 is a few dollars, it's no big deal, but when the difference is in the thousands, people get ridiculous, and by ridiculous, I mean insanely stupid. Even if $1400 is not a lot of money to somebody, that money could still serve a much greater purpose than feeding someone's ego by wasting it on a piece of cardboard that is not substantially different than other pieces of cardboard that are available for 1/10 of the price or less. >>
Well if the discussion is whether the money could be better spent on a greater purpose, then should ANY of us be collecting? This smacks of some sort of "rich people shouldn't have so much money" position rather than one about the artificial market for cards. >>
In regard to tens not being much different than many a nine...and a price that is astronomically apart, that is true. It is simply a foolish buy on an artificial product.
As for the money going to a greater good, that is another topic. I actually view it as a positive when a very wealthy person spends insane amounts on a card like that...because the money is often going to a 'non wealthy' person who had some good luck getting the grade/card.
However, if you are not insanely wealthy, and you are spending that kind of cash on cards like the above...then you are simply a fool. Take that money and put it towards your kids' future. If you don't have a kid, accumulate some wealth by other means, attract a woman...and then get laid and have one. Or just build your wealth, attract a nice lady, and get laid for pleasure.
<< <i>Well if the discussion is whether the money could be better spent on a greater purpose, then should ANY of us be collecting? This smacks of some sort of "rich people shouldn't have so much money" position rather than one about the artificial market for cards. >>
I see your logic, but I haven't slid that far down the slope. I see value in collecting, and I can see some legitimacy in paying high prices for rare cards, when the market for those cards is based on old fashioned supply and demand.
I just think a line of obscenity is crossed every time someone pays over $1000 for a few little pieces of paper that don't even have anything printed on them. Or, rather than tagging it with a flat dollar amount, the difference between the cost of a PSA 10 compared to a PSA 9 for many cards is a factor of over 100. That's downright sick, and by sick, I mean mentally ill. So my original comment really was about the artificial market for cards.