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ldfergldferg Posts: 6,747 ✭✭✭
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Anyone have any history on this eBay seller? Seems like he has hit a mother lode of PSA 10s and BGS Gems.


Thanks,

David (LD_Ferg)



1985 Topps Football (starting in psa 8) - #9 - started 05/21/06

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  • olb31olb31 Posts: 3,512 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Good question. i have been following them for over a year and they always have numerous BGS 10 cards. I have had nearly 1,000 cards graded by Beckett and have never a 1 BGS 10. I have had many 9.5's, but no 10's. Same story on PSA a few 10's out of nearly 1,000, never on big time cards though.

    I would suspect they either are take consignments or they probably know how to cut out the cards from uncut sheets, just a guess though.image
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  • ldfergldferg Posts: 6,747 ✭✭✭
    The 78s caught my eye. Years with 0 pop and now one guy gets several. Maybe just a good run of cards.


    Thanks,

    David (LD_Ferg)



    1985 Topps Football (starting in psa 8) - #9 - started 05/21/06
  • Sean1125Sean1125 Posts: 3,479
    Link

    I'd either guess they get/have an enormous amount of cards and only get the BEST OF THE BEST graded... Or they are on consignment like olb said.
  • GarabaldiGarabaldi Posts: 2,004 ✭✭✭
    They seem pricey on their cards.
  • Chargers49ersTigersChargers49ersTigers Posts: 909 ✭✭✭
    They are pricey. Some use ebay as a website to show what they have, not really for selling. (said with sarcasim) Who wouldn't want to pay $500 for a 1981 Topps Dan Fouts BGS 10??? In a standard auction 10 day auction nr, it would probably, maybe get $100-$150, maybe. Nothing against the card, I'd love to have it, but not for $500. I actually found a crossover 1975 Fouts PSA 10 to BVG 9.5 1/5, and got it for 1,000. No way will anyone pay $500.
  • digicatdigicat Posts: 8,551 ✭✭


    << <i>The 78s caught my eye. Years with 0 pop and now one guy gets several. Maybe just a good run of cards. >>



    From that sub:


    18440506 1978 TOPPS GARY WHEELOCK GEM MINT 10
    18440507 1978 TOPPS ODELL JONES GEM MINT 10
    18440508 1978 TOPPS JIM KAAT GEM MINT 10
    18440509 1978 TOPPS JOHN ELLIS GEM MINT 10
    18440510 1978 TOPPS BOB KNEPPER GEM MINT 10
    18440511 1978 TOPPS BO McLAUGHLIN GEM MINT 10
    18440512 1978 TOPPS BILL LEE GEM MINT 10
    18440513 1978 TOPPS DICK RUTHVEN GEM MINT 10
    18440514 1978 TOPPS JIM FREGOSI GEM MINT 10
    18440515 1978 TOPPS EARL WEAVER GEM MINT 10
    18440516 1978 TOPPS DAROLD KNOWLES GEM MINT 10
    18440517 1978 TOPPS BRIAN ASSELSTINE GEM MINT 10
    18440518 1978 TOPPS ROOKIE PITCHERS GEM MINT 10
    18440519 1978 TOPPS CLARENCE GASTON GEM MINT 10
    18440520 1978 TOPPS ANDRES MORA GEM MINT 10
    18440521 1978 TOPPS TOM GRIEVE GEM MINT 10
    18440522 1978 TOPPS IKE HAMPTON GEM MINT 10
    18440523 1978 TOPPS JACKSON TODD GEM MINT 10
    18440524 1978 TOPPS CHUCK TANNER GEM MINT 10
    18440525 1978 TOPPS BUTCH METZGER GEM MINT 10
    18440526 1978 TOPPS JERRY TERRELL GEM MINT 10
    18440527 1978 TOPPS RANDY MOFFITT GEM MINT 10
    18440528 1978 TOPPS JULIO GONZALEZ GEM MINT 10
    18440529 1978 TOPPS BEN OGLIVIE GEM MINT 10
    18440530 1978 TOPPS BILL FAHEY GEM MINT 10
    18440531 1978 TOPPS JOHN WATHAN GEM MINT 10
    18440532 1978 TOPPS TOMMY BOGGS GEM MINT 10
    18440533 1978 TOPPS LARRY MILBOURNE GEM MINT 10
    18440534 1978 TOPPS LARRY HANEY GEM MINT 10
    18440535 1978 TOPPS LARRY HERNDON GEM MINT 10
    18440536 1978 TOPPS WAYNE NORDHAGEN GEM MINT 10
    18440537 1978 TOPPS KEN KRAVEC GEM MINT 10
    18440538 1978 TOPPS BOBBY WINKLES GEM MINT 10
    18440539 1978 TOPPS MARK LEMONGELLO GEM MINT 10
    18440540 1978 TOPPS DYAR MILLER GEM MINT 10
    18440541 1978 TOPPS WORLD SERIES REGGIE JACKSON GEM MINT 10
    18440542 1978 TOPPS BUD HARRELSON GEM MINT 10
    18440543 1978 TOPPS GENE RICHARDS GEM MINT 10
    18440544 1978 TOPPS JERRY TABB GEM MINT 10
    18440545 1978 TOPPS JERRY MARTIN GEM MINT 10
    18440546 1978 TOPPS MANNY MOTA GEM MINT 10
    18440547 1978 TOPPS ROB ANDREWS GEM MINT 10
    18440548 1978 TOPPS JERRY ROYSTER GEM MINT 10
    18440549 1978 TOPPS MANNY MOTA GEM MINT 10
    18440550 1978 TOPPS BUCK MARTINEZ GEM MINT 10
    18440551 1978 TOPPS ALAN BANNISTER GEM MINT 10
    18440552 1978 TOPPS VON JOSHUA GEM MINT 10
    18440553 1978 TOPPS MIKE LUM GEM MINT 10
    18440554 1978 TOPPS JERRY MUMPHREY GEM MINT 10
    18440555 1978 TOPPS JIM ROOKER GEM MINT 10
    18440556 1978 TOPPS FRED KENDALL GEM MINT 10
    18440557 1978 TOPPS KEN CLAY GEM MINT 10
    18440558 1978 TOPPS MATT ALEXANDER GEM MINT 10
    18440559 1978 TOPPS ROD GILBREATH GEM MINT 10
    18440560 1978 TOPPS KEVIN BELL GEM MINT 10
    18440561 1978 TOPPS WILLIE HERNANDEZ GEM MINT 10
    18440562 1978 TOPPS JIM ESSIAN GEM MINT 10
    18440563 1978 TOPPS BOB STANLEY GEM MINT 10
    18440564 1978 TOPPS JERRY ROYSTER GEM MINT 10
    18440565 1978 TOPPS MIKE LUM GEM MINT 10
    18440566 1978 TOPPS SAM HINDS GEM MINT 10
    18440567 1978 TOPPS PAUL HARTZELL GEM MINT 10
    18440568 1978 TOPPS DAVE TOMLIN GEM MINT 10
    18440569 1978 TOPPS LEE LACY GEM MINT 10
    18440570 1978 TOPPS RICH DAUER GEM MINT 10
    18440571 1978 TOPPS DENNY MARTINEZ GEM MINT 10
    18440572 1978 TOPPS JOHN MONTAGUE GEM MINT 10
    18440573 1978 TOPPS CLAUDELL WASHINGTON GEM MINT 10
    18440574 1978 TOPPS MIKE VAIL GEM MINT 10
    18440575 1978 TOPPS TERRY PUHL GEM MINT 10
    18440576 1978 TOPPS TERRY HARMON GEM MINT 10
    18440577 1978 TOPPS HECTOR CRUZ GEM MINT 10
    18440578 1978 TOPPS DON HOOD GEM MINT 10
    18440579 1978 TOPPS BOB SHIRLEY GEM MINT 10
    18440580 1978 TOPPS BILLY ALMON GEM MINT 10
    18440581 1978 TOPPS RAY KNIGHT GEM MINT 10
    18440582 1978 TOPPS ADRIAN DEVINE GEM MINT 10
    18440583 1978 TOPPS PAUL REUSCHEL GEM MINT 10
    18440584 1978 TOPPS MANNY SARMIENTO GEM MINT 10
    18440585 1978 TOPPS TONY SOLAITA GEM MINT 10
    18440586 1978 TOPPS RON PRUITT GEM MINT 10
    18440587 1978 TOPPS ROGELIO MORET GEM MINT 10
    18440588 1978 TOPPS ROOKIE PITCHERS GEM MINT 10
    18440589 1978 TOPPS JOE FERGUSON GEM MINT 10
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  • ldfergldferg Posts: 6,747 ✭✭✭
    wow! unbelievable.


    Thanks,

    David (LD_Ferg)



    1985 Topps Football (starting in psa 8) - #9 - started 05/21/06
  • SOMSOM Posts: 1,555 ✭✭✭
    On the Set Registry Forum, the 1978 Collectors thread states that Pristine Paper is Peter Iskowitz.

    And yes...we 1978 Registrants are equally dumbfounded at the number of PSA 10s that he pulled down. Some super tough cards, too!

  • GarabaldiGarabaldi Posts: 2,004 ✭✭✭
    Now that is a sub
  • divecchiadivecchia Posts: 6,688 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Holy crap, on that sub. It looks down right unbelieveable.

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  • Bosox1976Bosox1976 Posts: 8,564 ✭✭✭✭✭
    83 in a row?? Were they crossovers? Good lord.
    Mike
    Bosox1976
  • ldfergldferg Posts: 6,747 ✭✭✭
    There are some crazy BGS 10s as well. High end cards for sure.


    Thanks,

    David (LD_Ferg)



    1985 Topps Football (starting in psa 8) - #9 - started 05/21/06
  • mlbfan2mlbfan2 Posts: 3,115 ✭✭✭
    They call that a pristine sub.
  • bbuckner22bbuckner22 Posts: 1,028 ✭
    Something doesn't seem quite right with that sub. Does anybody on this board that submits cards think they could pull one of those even with their most "pristine" cards?
    From what I can tell, 707 is the DOLLAR STORE compared to deans_cards. For what that guy charges, if I ever bought anything from him I would expect it to be delivered to me in a frickin' limo.
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  • artistlostartistlost Posts: 2,242 ✭✭✭
    did someone sneak some sheet cut cards through?
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  • SidePocketSidePocket Posts: 2,901 ✭✭✭
    That sub completely reeks of favoritism. They didn't even have the stones to put in a few 9.5's to break up the run of 10s.

    And PP's BINS - $1500 for a 91 Fleer Jordan BGS 10? There are only 10 million of that card out there, we probably all own two or three beauties that make no sense to sub based on the sheer volume of cards available.

    "Molon Labe"

  • mlbfan2mlbfan2 Posts: 3,115 ✭✭✭


    << <i>That sub completely reeks of favoritism. They didn't even have the stones to put in a few 9.5's to break up the run of 10s.

    And PP's BINS - $1500 for a 91 Fleer Jordan BGS 10? There are only 10 million of that card out there, we probably all own two or three beauties that make no sense to sub based on the sheer volume of cards available. >>



    Yeah, I think I'd rather pay $9 for a PSA 10. image
  • hammeredhammered Posts: 2,671 ✭✭✭


    << <i>did someone sneak some sheet cut cards through? >>



    (Any sheet cuts would be in those BVG holders)

    As for the sub posted above, if those are all sequential, then I can say I've never seen anything like it.
    As nice as those 10s are, one would think there'd certainly be several 9s scattered throughout the sub.

    This one, for instance, has less than gem centering: Link
    Just an example, anyway if I send in what I think are a run of 10s, I usually get lot of 9s with one or two 10s thrown in. That's what I've come to expect, regardless of how nice the cards are.

    To get 83 consecutive 10s is unbelievable
  • thenavarrothenavarro Posts: 7,497 ✭✭✭


    << <i>That sub completely reeks of favoritism. They didn't even have the stones to put in a few 9.5's to break up the run of 10s.

    And PP's BINS - $1500 for a 91 Fleer Jordan BGS 10? There are only 10 million of that card out there, we probably all own two or three beauties that make no sense to sub based on the sheer volume of cards available. >>



    The submitter might have had a bulk deal worked out where say they submitted 2,000 cards and paid a nominal review fee of say $2.00 per card, with instructions to slab only the gem mint 10's and do nothing with the rest. Thus, if there were 50 10's out of 2000, those would be the only ones listed. THerefore, when you check the sub details, you see 50 10's in a row, but don't see the other 1950 that were not.

    No idea if that's how it was done or not, just pure speculation on my part. I know BGS will do that (not necessarily those $$ numbers), don't know if PSA will or not.


    Mike

    Buying US Presidential autographs
  • ldfergldferg Posts: 6,747 ✭✭✭
    Mike,
    I was thinking along these lines (send in 2000 and slab only the 10s). It makes sense as some of these in a 9 would not fetch the grading fee.


    Thanks,

    David (LD_Ferg)



    1985 Topps Football (starting in psa 8) - #9 - started 05/21/06
  • hammeredhammered Posts: 2,671 ✭✭✭


    << <i>The submitter might have had a bulk deal worked out where say they submitted 2,000 cards and paid a nominal review fee of say $2.00 per card, with instructions to slab only the gem mint 10's and do nothing with the rest. Thus, if there were 50 10's out of 2000, those would be the only ones listed. THerefore, when you check the sub details, you see 50 10's in a row, but don't see the other 1950 that were not.

    No idea if that's how it was done or not, just pure speculation on my part. I know BGS will do that (not necessarily those $$ numbers), don't know if PSA will or not.


    Mike >>




    That makes sense
  • Probstein123Probstein123 Posts: 1,281 ✭
    Rick Probstein knows him well...
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    industry expert ....
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    Probstein123 is actively accepting CONSIGNMENTS !!
  • Probstein123Probstein123 Posts: 1,281 ✭
    Rick Probstein knows him well...
    good guy...
    industry veteran...
    industry expert ....
    Rick Probstein
    Ebay Store:
    Probstein123
    phone: 973 747 6304
    email: rickprobstein1@gmail.com

    Probstein123 is actively accepting CONSIGNMENTS !!
  • itzagoneritzagoner Posts: 8,753 ✭✭
    thenavarro's explanation is spot-on.
  • ahkmedbinladenahkmedbinladen Posts: 494 ✭✭
    Hey Rick,
    You should buy some of his 8s and 9s and try and bump themimage But not on Fridays.
  • brianwintersfanbrianwintersfan Posts: 3,626 ✭✭


    << <i>Hey Rick,
    You should buy some of his 8s and 9s and try and bump themimage But not on Fridays. >>



    And please stop talking about yourself in the third person! image
  • SOMSOM Posts: 1,555 ✭✭✭


    << <i>And please stop talking about yourself in the third person! >>



    And enough of the "double posting" too! image

    Nick
  • e64mtde64mtd Posts: 104 ✭
    I've purchased from him personally. Cards I received were amazing and the transactions went off without a hitch.
  • brianwintersfanbrianwintersfan Posts: 3,626 ✭✭


    << <i>I've purchased from him personally. Cards I received were amazing and the transactions went off without a hitch. >>



    Good to know
  • mrpeanut39mrpeanut39 Posts: 841 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>That sub completely reeks of favoritism. They didn't even have the stones to put in a few 9.5's to break up the run of 10s.

    And PP's BINS - $1500 for a 91 Fleer Jordan BGS 10? There are only 10 million of that card out there, we probably all own two or three beauties that make no sense to sub based on the sheer volume of cards available. >>



    The submitter might have had a bulk deal worked out where say they submitted 2,000 cards and paid a nominal review fee of say $2.00 per card, with instructions to slab only the gem mint 10's and do nothing with the rest. Thus, if there were 50 10's out of 2000, those would be the only ones listed. THerefore, when you check the sub details, you see 50 10's in a row, but don't see the other 1950 that were not.

    No idea if that's how it was done or not, just pure speculation on my part. I know BGS will do that (not necessarily those $$ numbers), don't know if PSA will or not.


    Mike >>



    I agree with this scenario. Any idea if the non-10's would receive a cert. # though?
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