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2011 Topps Heritage variation thread: facts and speculation (2nd post has SSP pictures)

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edit 3/31/11 - Topps announced the official short print & variation list - I'll update this post when I get a little more time.

I'll keep this thread updated as new information comes out. If I get a wild hair, I might even throw in some pictures.

The following compiles what is known about this year's Heritage, plus what is pure speculation on my part based on the original '62. If anyone can confirm something I've written is either correct or incorrect, I'd sure appreciate it. I'll update as new information trickles in. It's entirely possible that more is out there that is nowhere on this list.

* base Short Prints are 426-500.
* tinted variations. Green tints are not SSPs, but definitely rare. Red tints are exclusive to Target, while blue tints are exclusive to Wal-Mart. They can only be found on cards numbered 110-196.
* black bordered cards. Looks like these parallel the chrome cards, and are unnumbered. They are only available from Target's 3-pack rack packages.
* green refractors. These were inserted in hobby boxes. These boxes were inserted one per case - each pack in these boxes contains one green refractor. They are not numbered.

The Super Short Prints are becoming clearer, but some of the info below is still speculation. I based all of it on quirks that exist within the original '62 set.

#129
1962 was Lee Walls - he can be found looking both right and left. His looking left pose was also a green tint.
2011 is Carlos Quentin - if it exists, look for a looking left pose variation with a green tint
at this point, I don't see that a pose variation exists. The tint variations on eBay show the same portrait as the base card.

#132
1962 was the Angels team card - one variation had two floating heads inset in the photo
2011 is, guess what, the Angels team card. Hmm
confirmed as a simple green tint - lame, in my opinion. It would have been nice to have the two floating heads. Perhaps it exists as a SSP, though.

#134
1962 was Billy Hoeft, who had two poses. These poses weren't very distinct, but the regular one had a very distinct blue sky, while the green tint had... a green sky.
2011 is Brett Cecil - the one on eBay has has a VERY distinct blue sky. Hmm, guess we should be looking for a green sky, huh?
Cecil's green tint is a full frontal portrait, as opposed to the base card's somewhat side-view portrait

#139
1962 had four total variations: two poses of Hal Reniff (pitching & portrait - one a green tint) and two poses of Ruth (one a green tint). For the record, Reniff is also #159. Fun, huh?
2011 has a Joba, a Ruth, a Jackie, and probably another Joba with a pose variation. And of course #159 is Joba.
It has been confirmed that there are four different #139s this year, too. Babe has a base and a green tint, and Joba has a different pose than his base #139 - that pose is available as a regular card and a green tint. Both are SSPed.

#147
1962 was Bill Kunkel, who had a portrait and green tint pitching variation
2011 is Joakim Soria - the one on eBay is a portrait - if it exits, look for the matching green tint pitching variation
there is a confirmed pitching pose variation here.

#163 unconfirmed
1962 is the Hot Corners Guardians card featuring Billy Gardner and Cletis Boyer. There was a simple green tint here.
2011 is also Hot Corners Guardias, and features Alex Rodriguez and Mark Teixeira. The variation has "Hot Corners Guardians" in yellow print, instead of the base card's red, and is also missing the Heritage watermark. As no green tints have surfaced on eBay that I can find, I'm unsure whether this is a SSP or the intended green tint.

#174
1962 was Carl Willey, who could be found with and without a cap (yay, another green tint pose variation!)
2011 is Jon Garland - the one on eBay doesn't have a hat - if it exists, the variation should be a green tint "with hat"
Garland's tint variation is cropped slightly different. On the base card, none of the Dodgers script on the front of the jersey is visible. In the green tint, some of it is.

#176
1962 was Eddie Yost, who had a batting and portrait variation (one a green tint)
2011 is Chase Headley. The one on eBay shows him holding a bat - if it exists, the variation should be a green tint portrait
the tint variations still show him with bat on shoulder, but at a different angle, more of a side view

#190
1962 was Lee Walls, who had a portrait and a green tint batting pose
2011 is a shaggy-ass Todd Helton. The one on eBay is the portrait, which means a batting green tint might be out there.
confirmed frontal bat on shoulder variation

#192
1962 was another checklist card. There was a very subtle difference here. One said, "checklist, 3" and the other said, "checklist 3" (no comma)
2011 is the Marlins team card. Look for another subtle difference, I'd guess
#192 is the Marlins team card - like the #132 Angels team card, it has a simple green tint parallel

#279 confirmed
1962 was Hobie Landrith. The back of Hobie Landrith's card had the word "hobby" instead of "hitting" - it was an uncorrected error.
2011 is Bengie Molina. Look for the same thing on the back of his card.
edit: Topps confirmed a SSP for Molina. The SSP has him being born in 1994, rather than 1974.

#392 confirmed
1962 was Ken Boyer's All Star card. On the cards back, Topps gave him a batting average of .392 - in '61 he batted .329. Again, this was uncorrected.
2011 is Ryan Zimmerman's All Star card. Topps may have done something similar with Zimmeran's stats. Zimmerman batted .307 last year, so a variation where he batted .370 might be out there.
edit: Topps has confirmed that a SSP exists with Zimmerman's batting average as .370

#478 confirmed
1962 was Don Zimmer, who was pictured as a Met, but identified on the card front as a "Cin. Reds" player.
2011 is David Wright, who has both a base SP as a Met, and a confirmed SSP as a Red.

#490 confirmed
1962 was Clete Boyer, who had an uncorrected reverse negative error.
2011 is Alex Rodriguez, who also has a reverse negative as a SSP.

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