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Does the ad make a difference for 1909-1911 Cards

I am helping setting up a public auction early May and have a total of 209 Original 1909-1911 tobacco baseball cards (White, Gold and Brown Borders). Most of the cards have a Piedont ad (90%) on the reverse however a few have Polar Bear, Sweet Caporal, Tolstoi, Hassan, Honest or Recruit ads. Does the ad on the reverse make a difference in the price of the card? I have not found a great deal of the Piedmont cards for sale and I was wondering if there is much, if any, difference. The vast majority of the cards have been graded by the owner as VG-EX-4 however, I just sent away the 1st 12 of the cars to SGC for professional grading (want to compare owner's grade to the pros). I am new to this collecting and trying to pick up as much information as possible. Thanks in advance

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  • msassinmsassin Posts: 1,564 ✭✭✭
    From the backs you listed, T206 Tolstoi's generally bring around 2x the price of a Piedmont.

    There are rarer T205 & T207 backs, just not anything you listed.
  • BrickBrick Posts: 4,999 ✭✭✭✭✭
    You might talk to the guys at SGC where you sent the cards. They have a top notch reputation with pre war cards.
    Collecting 1960 Topps Baseball in PSA 8
    http://www.unisquare.com/store/brick/

    Ralph

  • Thanks, I have one Tolstori. It is for Johnny Evers (Chicago Shirt-HOF) which the owner has rated an EX-5...we will see when they get back from SGC. He also has 4 different Ty Cobb cards (2 Piedmont, 1 Sweet Caporal and 1 Polar Bear) that he has graded from Good-2 to Ex-Mt-6 (Green Portrait). I just finished scanning the 1st 209 cards and next week he told up he's bring another 350 cards from the 40's, 50's and 60's. So far none of the cards are professionally graded but he has agreed to have all the Hall of Fame players graded. The Hall of Fame players maike up approximately 1/3 of the total we have already received. Should make for an interesting live and online auction.
  • Thanks again for your help Brick. I did send them to SGC thanks to your advice from a couple of weeks ago when I enquired the difference between PSA and SGC. I suspect that if you saw these cars you would be impressed. The gentleman selling them is over 90 and has decided that it's time to sell after all these years.
  • JHS5120JHS5120 Posts: 1,968 ✭✭✭
    Hey,
    I just helped a friend unload a few hundred pre war cards. I sent most to SGC and a few to PSA depending on which had better previous sales, you should turn on your PM or email me, if you need any help organizing the collection.
    Jason
    My eBay Store =)

    "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." Dr. Seuss
  • milbrocomilbroco Posts: 2,755 ✭✭✭✭
    OK you have my interest. Where is this auction.......near Phila., PA. I hope?
    ebay seller name milbroco
    email bcmiller7@comcast.net
  • heritageheritage Posts: 2,662 ✭✭✭
    OK you have my interest. Where is this auction.......near Phila., PA. I hope?


    +1
  • The auction location is secret for now but it will be in NC on either the 8th or 15th of May but it will be also carried online . The date is somewhat up in the air depending on when we receive the balance of the cards and how many we get graded. A lot of that depends on what and how many he delivers in the next week or so but I would estimate that there will be approximately 500 single lots just from his collection. As soon as everything is finalized, I will post the details on the board. I will give you a little taste...see the attached scans.
  • Cobb will get a MC or OC qualitier...

    Tinker has paper loss which will drop the grade to a 2 or 1.
    Cory
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    Working on:
    Football
    1973 Topps PSA 8+ (99.81%)
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    Baseball
    1938 Goudey (56.25%)
    1951 Topps Redbacks PSA 8 (100%)
    1952 Bowman PSA 7+ (63.10%)
    1953 Topps PSA 5+ (91.24%)
    1973 Topps PSA 8+ (70.76%)
    1985 Fleer PSA 10 (54.85%)
  • JHS5120JHS5120 Posts: 1,968 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Cobb will get a MC or OC qualitier...

    Tinker has paper loss which will drop the grade to a 2 or 1. >>



    Agreed.

    Clarke PSA 4
    Tinker PSA 2
    Chance PSA 2? slight diamond cut, probably best to send that to SGC
    Cobb PSA 2 MC

    Nice cards though!
    Are you sending them to PSA or SGC?
    My eBay Store =)

    "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." Dr. Seuss
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