question about topps vending cases
redbull
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hi, i'm new to the forum and a former card collector during my teen years and want to get back into collecting(i'm 40 now). Ive got a question about topps vending cases. Lets say i buy a vending case of 1985 topps baseball and the first clemens i get is off centered from left to right, should i assume the rest of the clemens cards in this case are off centered left to right? I'm asking this because i recently bought a wax case of 1989 donruss and all 17 of my ken griffey jr's were off centered from top to bottom(every one was miss cut the same way) Are topps vending cases different? thanks in advance for any replies
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Far as vending from my experience. I had 2 boxes of 1983 Topps from the same case and all the Boggs RC were OC but the all Gywnn and Sandbergs were not. From a different case I had 2 boxes Gywnn and Sanberg were OC and Boggs was not. This also seemed to be the same with 1984 Topps vending as well. I have not tried 1980-1982 or 1985-1989. I always assumed they would be the same as 83 and 84. Far as Rack Pack cases. I found that not all the same card is OC within the case. In the summer of 2007 I bought a 1984 Topps Rack Pack 6 box case. I busted the whole thing open and got 16 Mattingly RC. Only 2 were OC the other 14 were psa 9 and a couple psa 10. I also got a PSA 10 Pete Rose and many other 10s from that case. The cards were in incredible condition for being over 20+ years old.
If you busting open unopened stuff to submit to PSA then I would go after rack packs if possible. They yield the best results from my experience.
<< <i>Welcome to the boards.
Far as vending from my experience. I had 2 boxes of 1983 Topps from the same case and all the Boggs RC were OC but the all Gywnn and Sandbergs were not. From a different case I had 2 boxes Gywnn and Sanberg were OC and Boggs was not. This also seemed to be the same with 1984 Topps vending as well. I have not tried 1980-1982 or 1985-1989. I always assumed they would be the same as 83 and 84. Far as Rack Pack cases. I found that not all the same card is OC within the case. In the summer of 2007 I bought a 1984 Topps Rack Pack 6 box case. I busted the whole thing open and got 16 Mattingly RC. Only 2 were OC the other 14 were psa 9 and a couple psa 10. I also got a PSA 10 Pete Rose and many other 10s from that case. The cards were in incredible condition for being over 20+ years old.
If you busting open unopened stuff to submit to PSA then I would go after rack packs if possible. They yield the best results from my experience. >>
Lots of useful information!!! thanks
Mike
<< <i>I just busted 4 1983 Topps vending boxes.The centering was not the same for each card.I had one Sandberg that was miscut and 2 that were dead centered.I have no reason to believe that 1985 would be any different.
Mike >>
wow interesting! were all four boxes from the same case?
WTB: PSA 1 - PSA 3 Centered, High Eye Appeal 1950's Mantle
we are the same age and i too have been all about the 80's this year.
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<< <i>I busted an entire '83 topps case from baseball card exchange a few months back and the centering was not consistent throughout. I'd get 3 or 4 left to right off centered boggs' and then get 2 or 3 nicely centered ones. The gwynns and sandbergs were centered better for the most part. I ended up subbing around 100 cards from the case and hit like 40 psa 10's, including 5 pop 1's and a sandberg, Ripken, and Jackson >>
Thank You for posting this. Seems that even within a sealed case, hit or miss box to box as far as centering goes.
WTB: PSA 1 - PSA 3 Centered, High Eye Appeal 1950's Mantle
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<< <i>I just busted 4 1983 Topps vending boxes.The centering was not the same for each card.I had one Sandberg that was miscut and 2 that were dead centered.I have no reason to believe that 1985 would be any different.
Mike >>
wow interesting! were all four boxes from the same case? >>
Yes Eric they were all from the same case.All my Gwynns were dead centered also.The box that the Sandberg came from also had a few more miscut cards in it.
Mike
Only an idiot would have a message board signature.
<< <i>Any of you fools that busted all this '83 Topps want to sell me a set, minus the big RCs? >>
Sure,
what are your parameters?
Arex
Welcome to the boards.
I was wondering why you would bust a vending case of 85T? Are you gonna try to put a nice set together? The fun of going thru 12K cards? Just curious.
Anyway - good luck - I've found vending - in general - to be a crapshoot - condition and centering all over the place - but still fun.
<< <i>Any of you fools that busted all this '83 Topps want to sell me a set, minus the big RCs? >>
what are you looking to pay? It takes a lot of time to put sets together
Or, for another example, in 1982 51 for the regular rack and 36 again for the Grocery rack.
Despite the difference in the card number/amounts the prices are the same.
What gives?
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<< <i>Any of you fools that busted all this '83 Topps want to sell me a set, minus the big RCs? >>
Sure,
what are your parameters? >>
I am the least picky guy you could imagine.
ExMint to NM, sans stars is fine with me.
I have the bigs in NMish already.
Definitely not like the guy on the B/S/T....
Only an idiot would have a message board signature.
Hello, and welcome!
No offense, but what are you going to do with over 10,000 junk cards from the late eighties? Maybe you should buy a few 89 Donruss Griffey singles and call it good. I must say ripping through a wax case of anything is quite a blast and I'm sure you had fun with it! Hope you got them cheap! If Griffey is your quest, unopened 89 upper deck is not too pricey and more likely to result in a PSA 9 or 10. Good luck!
Good luck and welcome to the boards.
Thanks,
David (LD_Ferg)
1985 Topps Football (starting in psa 8) - #9 - started 05/21/06
<< <i>Hello, and welcome!
No offense, but what are you going to do with over 10,000 junk cards from the late eighties? Maybe you should buy a few 89 Donruss Griffey singles and call it good. I must say ripping through a wax case of anything is quite a blast and I'm sure you had fun with it! Hope you got them cheap! If Griffey is your quest, unopened 89 upper deck is not too pricey and more likely to result in a PSA 9 or 10. Good luck! >>
Hi, i paid $85.00 plus $36.00 in shipping.......$121.00 total couldnt pass it up!! the seller had 5 sealed cases and wanted to clear out some inventory (those 5 sold in 1 week)
<< <i>Hi Mike
Welcome to the boards.
I was wondering why you would bust a vending case of 85T? Are you gonna try to put a nice set together? The fun of going thru 12K cards? Just curious.
Anyway - good luck - I've found vending - in general - to be a crapshoot - condition and centering all over the place - but still fun. >>
hi, if i was going to buy i would be sending cards into PSA for grading and hope for a few 10's. there is a sealed vending case of 85 topps on ebay for $1,250 and after further consideration i'm going to pass on it. Interesting though someone had a sealed vending case of 1983 topps for $1,150 with free shipping but when i went back it was already sold with buy it now.
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<< <i>Hi Mike
Welcome to the boards.
I was wondering why you would bust a vending case of 85T? Are you gonna try to put a nice set together? The fun of going thru 12K cards? Just curious.
Anyway - good luck - I've found vending - in general - to be a crapshoot - condition and centering all over the place - but still fun. >>
hi, if i was going to buy i would be sending cards into PSA for grading and hope for a few 10's. there is a sealed vending case of 85 topps on ebay for $1,250 and after further consideration i'm going to pass on it. Interesting though someone had a sealed vending case of 1983 topps for $1,150 with free shipping but when i went back it was already sold with buy it now. >>
I would think you are wise to pass on it, especially if you are going to break it. At $1250 that is $50 and some change a box. You can buy from Steve at BBCEX for $35 a box. Thats a little over $800 for 24.
<< <i>Can someone explain to me the difference in the Grocery Rack and the Regular Rack? There appears, for example in 1981 Topps, to be 48 cards in the regular rack and 36 in the grocery rack.
Or, for another example, in 1982 51 for the regular rack and 36 again for the Grocery rack.
Despite the difference in the card number/amounts the prices are the same.
What gives? >>
Grocery Racks are basically 3 cello packs within a rack pack
Rack Packs are without cello wrapping within the rack pack.
Rack Packs are the best imo.
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<< <i>Can someone explain to me the difference in the Grocery Rack and the Regular Rack? There appears, for example in 1981 Topps, to be 48 cards in the regular rack and 36 in the grocery rack.
Or, for another example, in 1982 51 for the regular rack and 36 again for the Grocery rack.
Despite the difference in the card number/amounts the prices are the same.
What gives? >>
Grocery Racks are basically 3 cello packs within a rack pack
Rack Packs are without cello wrapping within the rack pack.
Rack Packs are the best imo. >>
But the cello in the Grocery arent the oversize packs correct? they just happen to be wrapped in cello. Am i following you right?
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<< <i>Can someone explain to me the difference in the Grocery Rack and the Regular Rack? There appears, for example in 1981 Topps, to be 48 cards in the regular rack and 36 in the grocery rack.
Or, for another example, in 1982 51 for the regular rack and 36 again for the Grocery rack.
Despite the difference in the card number/amounts the prices are the same.
What gives? >>
Grocery Racks are basically 3 cello packs within a rack pack
Rack Packs are without cello wrapping within the rack pack.
Rack Packs are the best imo. >>
But the cello in the Grocery arent the oversize packs correct? they just happen to be wrapped in cello. Am i following you right? >>
Correct they are not over sized packs and are just wrapped in cello within the rack pack.
Plain rack packs the cards are loose and don't have cello wrapping within the rack. Cello usually damages corners on cards and that is why I never bothered with Grocery rack packs.
Also to the OP if you are submitting cards to PSA to make some $ in hopes for 10s. Then I would buy Rack Packs not vending. I believe the general consensus for highest possibility in pulling gem mint cards is in this order.
Rack Pack
Wax Pack
Cello and Grocery
Vending
From experience and from memory. I was lucky to get PSA 10s in general with 83 and 84 Topps.
Vending 1 per box
Cello 2-5 per box
Wax 4-8 per box
Rack 10-20 per box
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<< <i>Hi Mike
Welcome to the boards.
I was wondering why you would bust a vending case of 85T? Are you gonna try to put a nice set together? The fun of going thru 12K cards? Just curious.
Anyway - good luck - I've found vending - in general - to be a crapshoot - condition and centering all over the place - but still fun. >>
hi, if i was going to buy i would be sending cards into PSA for grading and hope for a few 10's. there is a sealed vending case of 85 topps on ebay for $1,250 and after further consideration i'm going to pass on it. Interesting though someone had a sealed vending case of 1983 topps for $1,150 with free shipping but when i went back it was already sold with buy it now. >>
I would think you are wise to pass on it, especially if you are going to break it. At $1250 that is $50 and some change a box. You can buy from Steve at BBCEX for $35 a box. Thats a little over $800 for 24. >>
hi arex, thats a way better deal!!! i'm going to check out the website
T222's PSA 1 or better