Old Green Insert PCGS slabs with colored inner rings holding the coin.

keets

I recently purchased an inexpensive PCGS 4th generation slab which has a light green ring surrounding the coin instead of the typical clear plastic type. I seem to recall seeing threads about this but haven't been able to us the "search" to discover where exactly they are. My questions would be two:
-----Can someone find those and link them if they can??
-----Abesnt the archived threads, who has the explanation for what caused the change or what is the reason for the colored ring??

Thanks in advance to anyone who can help.

Al H.

coinkid855

They sometimes simply discolor over time depending on the environment. They all used to be clear.




-Paul

TomB

I think it is from UV damage or instability of the inner plastic ring.

keets

i understand that they have always been clear and that something caused them to change. what i'm hoping to find, and what i'm fairly sure was in the old threads about them, is what the cause might be.

coinguy1

<< <i>i understand that they have always been clear and that something caused them to change. what i'm hoping to find, and what i'm fairly sure was in the old threads about them, is what the cause might be. >>

TomB, who posted above you, might not have a pretty face, but I think he explained the cause.

MidLifeCrisis

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<< <i>i understand that they have always been clear and that something caused them to change. what i'm hoping to find, and what i'm fairly sure was in the old threads about them, is what the cause might be. >>

TomB, who posted above you, might not have a pretty face, but I think he explained the cause. >>


I see you've met TomB.

keets

TomB, who posted above you, might not have a pretty face, but I think he explained the cause.

he's actually quick on the trigger, my reply was dirested to coinkid. was there a range of colors or were they all green?? has anyone found those threads yet??

coinguy1

<< <i>TomB, who posted above you, might not have a pretty face, but I think he explained the cause.

he's actually quick on the trigger, my reply was dirested to coinkid. was there a range of colors or were they all green?? has anyone found those threads yet?? >>

I searched "ring" and "discolored" and found this

PerryHall

<< <i>I think it is from UV damage or instability of the inner plastic ring. >>



Agree. I saw a few inexpensive PCGS slabs in the window of a pawn shop with the colored inner rings and I just assumed they turned over a period of time due to being exposed to the sun light.

pontiacinf

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<< <i>i understand that they have always been clear and that something caused them to change. what i'm hoping to find, and what i'm fairly sure was in the old threads about them, is what the cause might be. >>

TomB, who posted above you, might not have a pretty face, but I think he explained the cause. >>



shame on you mark, didnt anyone tell you he's working at one of them thar nucleer plants

LeeBone

<< <i>I think it is from UV damage or instability of the inner plastic ring. >>



I can`t say, because this coins ring turned sitting in my safe. I`ve had it since 1995 and only noticed the green ring within the past 4-5 years or so.

BaseballAbs

I've had a ring in a holder in one of my coins turn that color as well. It's a bit distracting. The only question I would have is, could it effect the coin in any way? Makes you wonder the quality of plastic when you see it change color. I have seen old toys turn that color and become very brittle. My other question is, has this issue been solved?

19Lyds

<< <i>I think it is from UV damage or instability of the inner plastic ring. >>

I don' believe it is.

I had a light/green (the 1977 below) one which I set out in the sun. No effects/No Changes.



Do you suppose a Black Light would do the trick?

Below are my current holdings.

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LanceNewmanOCC

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can we get someone that knows what they are doing with 1893-S Morgan authentication, the 9 in the date and the shape and position of the S are putting me ill at ease.
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melvin289

The only one I own.

19Lyds - I wonder if your 76-S Ike and my 74-S Ike came out of the same submission?

Ron

1946Hamm

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can we get someone that knows what they are doing with 1893-S Morgan authentication, the 9 in the date and the shape and position of the S are putting me ill at ease.
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Looks good to me. Matches the diagonistics in the counterfeit detection guide for a genuine coin.

LeeBone

[q.can we get someone that knows what they are doing with 1893-S Morgan authentication, the 9 in the date and the shape and position of the S are putting me ill at ease.
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Looks good to me. Matches the diagonistics in the counterfeit detection guide for a genuine coin. >>



It`s the real deal.
Here`s the full slab pics...

SeattleSlammer

LeeBone, I really dig that 93-S ..... super look and an OGH CAC to boot!

Kove

In addition to all of the photos posted here, I've seen a few of these in the wild lately. I've made one observation about this green/yellow ring phenomenon.

All of the coins inside the green rings are dollars. Morgans, Peace, and Ikes. I've never seen a smaller coin with a green ring, even from the same generation green label.

I wonder if PCGS just got in a bad batch of dollar-sized gaskets way back when, and they turned over time. Has anybody else noticed a non-dollar sized coin with a green gasket?

LeeBone

<< <i>In addition to all of the photos posted here, I've seen a few of these in the wild lately. I've made one observation about this green/yellow ring phenomenon.

All of the coins inside the green rings are dollars. Morgans, Peace, and Ikes. I've never seen a smaller coin with a green ring, even from the same generation green label.

I wonder if PCGS just got in a bad batch of dollar-sized gaskets way back when, and they turned over time. Has anybody else noticed a non-dollar sized coin with a green gasket? >>



Hmmmm ....guess not?

Maybe it really was just a bad batch of dollar sized rings

19Lyds

Here's a bad scan and an even worse photo but this 1964 Proof Kennedy definitely has one of these lime green inserts.

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