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Love the missing info from sellers

I just love when sellers list a card with a qualifier and don't mention it anywhere in the title or listing. The only thing he says is it's a beautifully graded card with no flaws, BS seller. PSA 9 MINT
From what I can tell, 707 is the DOLLAR STORE compared to deans_cards. For what that guy charges, if I ever bought anything from him I would expect it to be delivered to me in a frickin' limo.
~WalterSobchak

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  • bkingbking Posts: 3,095 ✭✭


    << <i>I just love when sellers list a card with a qualifier and don't mention it anywhere in the title or listing. The only thing he says is it's a beautifully graded card with no flaws, BS seller. PSA 9 MINT >>



    I was on a tear some months back where I reported every one of those I saw. Man was I busy.
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  • itzagoneritzagoner Posts: 8,753 ✭✭
    huh.

    i always thot (OC) meant Orange County.

    silly me.
  • EchoCanyonEchoCanyon Posts: 2,289 ✭✭✭
    How about when it says 'graded' but it's not. Look at this bozo:

    PSA? Where?
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    71 Toppsman should know better.


    Good for you.


  • << <i>How about when it says 'graded' but it's not. Look at this bozo: >>



    << <i>PSA? Where? >>



    That's a good one, even has in his description that it's graded!
    From what I can tell, 707 is the DOLLAR STORE compared to deans_cards. For what that guy charges, if I ever bought anything from him I would expect it to be delivered to me in a frickin' limo.
    ~WalterSobchak
  • 71 Toppsman has a whole run of 72 football PSA 9's that are OC. None of the titles mention it. You are right, he should know better.
    From what I can tell, 707 is the DOLLAR STORE compared to deans_cards. For what that guy charges, if I ever bought anything from him I would expect it to be delivered to me in a frickin' limo.
    ~WalterSobchak
  • 72skywalker72skywalker Posts: 1,545 ✭✭✭


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    << <i>How about when it says 'graded' but it's not. Look at this bozo: >>



    << <i>PSA? Where? >>



    That's a good one, even has in his description that it's graded! >>



    I just asked him is PSA graded the card or not. Let's see his response.
    Collecting Yankees and vintage Star Wars
  • Regarding 71toppsman: What's the problem? It says OC in the pic.

    So you clicked on the auction and it took 10 seconds out of your life to see the OC on the holder itself. Is that really a big deal?
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  • bkingbking Posts: 3,095 ✭✭


    << <i>Regarding 71toppsman: What's the problem? It says OC in the pic.

    So you clicked on the auction and it took 10 seconds out of your life to see the OC on the holder itself. Is that really a big deal? >>



    The big deal isn't us; it's the buyers who see 'PSA 9' in the title and the body and look no further. There is a fairly large contigent of 'buy the slab, not the card' folks out there, and usually these auctions are designed to snare them.

    That being said, I doubt 71toppsman had any such intentions as he's a very reliable seller/grader IMO.
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  • DboneesqDboneesq Posts: 18,219 ✭✭


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    << <i>Regarding 71toppsman: What's the problem? It says OC in the pic.
    So you clicked on the auction and it took 10 seconds out of your life to see the OC on the holder itself. Is that really a big deal? >>




    The big deal isn't us; it's the buyers who see 'PSA 9' in the title and the body and look no further. There is a fairly large contigent of 'buy the slab, not the card' folks out there, and usually these auctions are designed to snare them.
    That being said, I doubt 71toppsman had any such intentions as he's a very reliable seller/grader IMO. >>



    I agree 100% with Bob ... on both issues.
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    Doug

    Liquidating my collection for the 3rd and final time. Time for others to enjoy what I have enjoyed over the last several decades. Money could be put to better use.
  • gonzergonzer Posts: 3,037 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>it's the buyers who see 'PSA 9' in the title and the body and look no further. >>



    No sympathy here. If someone does not care to take time and thoroughly read/look over an item they intend to bid on then "Tough!". Same type of person who signs a contract without reading it then whines about the "small" details later. The more times you get bit in the a$$ the more careful you are about where to sit.
  • bkingbking Posts: 3,095 ✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>it's the buyers who see 'PSA 9' in the title and the body and look no further. >>



    No sympathy here. If someone does not care to take time and thoroughly read/look over an item they intend to bid on then "Tough!". Same type of person who signs a contract without reading it then whines about the "small" details later. The more times you get bit in the a$$ the more careful you are about where to sit. >>



    Yeah, let those elderly folks fall for enough home repair scams and they'll learn!!!
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    Successful deals to date: thedudeabides,gameusedhoop,golfcollector,tigerdean,treetop,bkritz, CapeMOGuy,WeekendHacker,jeff8877,backbidder,Salinas,milbroco,bbuckner22,VitoCo1972,ddfamf,gemint,K,fatty macs,waltersobchak,dboneesq
  • mlbfan2mlbfan2 Posts: 3,115 ✭✭✭


    << <i>So you clicked on the auction and it took 10 seconds out of your life to see the OC on the holder itself. Is that really a big deal? >>


    >>



    It would have taken 1 second to put "OC" in the auction title. Is that really a big deal?
  • twileytwiley Posts: 1,923


    << <i>Regarding 71toppsman: What's the problem? It says OC in the pic.

    So you clicked on the auction and it took 10 seconds out of your life to see the OC on the holder itself. Is that really a big deal? >>



    Actually yes it is.

    I feel sorry for the bonehead that doesn't look at the picture and just reads the title. Then pulls the trigger.

    You would think the seller could have put the OC qualifier in the title. I mean it is not like he didn't have enough characters left or anything.

    "1972 Topps Football #60 CHARLIE SANDERS...........PSA 9"

    should read

    "1972 Topps Football #60 CHARLIE SANDERS PSA 9 OC"

    But of course the seller is looking for that bonehead....
  • Do inaccurate descriptions like this screw with the VCP data?
  • EchoCanyonEchoCanyon Posts: 2,289 ✭✭✭


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    But of course the seller is looking for that bonehead.... >>



    Agree 100%. It's shady and a bit dis-honest.

    Caveat Emptor!

    Greg Brady's lesson on caveat emptor
  • itzagoneritzagoner Posts: 8,753 ✭✭


    << <i>Do inaccurate descriptions like this screw with the VCP data? >>



    yes. image
  • jay0791jay0791 Posts: 3,556 ✭✭✭✭
    71toppsman sold me some raw cards that he stated were nmt/mt or mint. To my disgust they were ex at best.
    Stopped buying from him. A few years back before all of the ebay rating system was in place.

    IMO seller who do not include the correect listing such as qualifiers are disshonest and purposely trying to decieve.

    Ebay should remove all those auctions and keep the listing fee.
    Collecting PSA... FB,BK,HK,and BB HOF RC sets
    1948-76 Topps FB Sets
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    1948-1993 NY Yankee Team Sets
  • RipublicaninMassRipublicaninMass Posts: 10,051 ✭✭✭


    << <i>71 Toppsman should know better. >>



    nothing you could do could get that auction pulled
  • mlbfan2mlbfan2 Posts: 3,115 ✭✭✭
    Here's what that auction would look like if there was a "PC" (Perfect Centering) qualifier, and it was graded PSA 9 PC:

    PC 1972 Topps Football #60 CHARLIE SANDERS...PSA 9 PC!! OMG!

    *****THIS IS A BEAUTIFUL GRADED CARD & HAS NO FATAL FLAWS AT ALL. IT'S GRADED PSA 9 PC!!!*****
    *****PSA PC MEANS *PERFECT* CENTERING!!!*****
    *****WOW, L@@K!!!!
    *****WHEN YOU BID, DON'T FORGET THAT THIS CARD IS *PC*, NOT OC!!!*****
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭


    << <i> No sympathy here. If someone does not care to take time and thoroughly read/look over an item they intend to bid on then "Tough!". >>




    No sympathy from me either for both of them. Seller will lose a SNAD case.


    Steve
    Good for you.
  • twileytwiley Posts: 1,923


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    << <i> No sympathy here. If someone does not care to take time and thoroughly read/look over an item they intend to bid on then "Tough!". >>




    No sympathy from me either for both of them. Seller will lose a SNAD case.


    Steve >>



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  • thehallmarkthehallmark Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭


    << <i>No sympathy from me either for both of them. Seller will lose a SNAD case.

    Steve >>



    I'm inclined to agree about no sympathy for either party.

    Does Ebay have a clear policy on whether or not qualifiers are part of a grade? I would think that a seller who chooses to disclose the grade in the title should be listing the WHOLE grade, no?
  • cardbendercardbender Posts: 1,831 ✭✭


    << <i>

    IMO seller who do not include the correect listing such as qualifiers are disshonest and purposely trying to decieve.

    Ebay should remove all those auctions and keep the listing fee. >>



    I totally agree. They are shady sellers.
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