Didn't PCGS have a rule about not slabbing holed coins?

Steve27

GaCoinGuy

I always thought they did, but maybe they make exception for keys?

ambro51

Code 84 states "Holed and Plugged".


the implication is that the coin must be plugged.

despite that, what it says on the label is NOT what it says in the 'rules'.

so, maybe they DO make exceptions.

Perhaps a question Mr. Willis would care to answer???

llafoe

Code 84 - Holed and/OR Plugged

claychaser

I for one think that this coin should be certified. It's a key date, often faked, and for the protection of the collector who cannot afford an undamaged example, a trusted coin to buy.

Billet7

I think it should be certified as well, but I always thought a hole kept it out of a holder, unless it was accompanied by a plug to fill the hole.

fivecents

I wonder if PCGS will not genuine holder a holed coin if it has too many holes or one extremely HUGE hole.

messydesk

Perhaps if the hole precludes authentication the coin will not be holdered.

Also, assuming the hole was drilled from the obverse, one would have to conclude that the coin has a rather fortuitous die rotation.

Lakesammman

I thought that's what Genuine holders are for??

BaseballAbs

Huh, never thought i would see that.

AUandAG

They make concessions for key date coins.

bob

DIMEMAN

A Genuine holder is the same as a body bag, so why not????

BigRick

Seems like it should be allowed as long as they can determine that it is genuine.

llafoe

Hard to read, but code 84 is Holed and/OR Plugged... notice the word OR

Codes 82, 83, 84, 85, 90, 96, 98 and 99 are supplied with the applicable reasons, and Codes 82, 84, 91, 92, 93, 94, 95, 97 and 98 are holdered, with the remaining codes body bagged:

Code Reason Explanation Described Holdered
82 Filed Rims Rim(s) and/or edge is filed. (more) Yes Yes
83 Peeling Lamination Potential for sealing damage. (more) Yes No
84 Holed and/or Plugged Any filled or non-filled hole. (more) Yes Yes
85 No Decision. (more) Yes No
90 Not Genuine. (more) Yes No
91 Questionable Color Any artificial re-toning & dipped copper. (more) No Yes
92 Cleaning Harsh cleaning or polishing. (more) No Yes
93 Planchet Flaw Generally large & prominent flaw(s). (more) No Yes
94 Altered Surfaces Any applied substance (wax, putty, lacquer). (more) No Yes
95 Scratch(s) Large & prominent scratch(s). (more) No Yes
97 Environmental Damage Corrosion, excessive toning, verdigris. (more) No Yes
98 Damage Any metal movement. (more) Yes Yes
99 PVC Residue Oily polyvinylchloride substance. (more) Yes No

BAJJERFAN

I'd surmise that they have rules for the boards and policies for grading.

LindeDad

Aren’t most rules made so that changes to them can be made?
I would think that KEY date and exceedingly rare coins have their own rules and they are what MR. Willis and Mr. Hall says what they are.

questor54

<< <i>Aren’t most rules made so that changes to them can be made?
I would think that KEY date and exceedingly rare coins have their own rules and they are what MR. Willis and Mr. Hall says what they are. >>



But we do have to remember to buy the hole and not just the hole-der.

llafoe

<< <i>

<< <i>Aren’t most rules made so that changes to them can be made?
I would think that KEY date and exceedingly rare coins have their own rules and they are what MR. Willis and Mr. Hall says what they are. >>



But we do have to remember to buy the hole and not just the hole-der. >>



Bad...

ziggy29

Some rules warrant granting exceptions, and I'd think when you have a particular key date where authentication is crucial because there are so many counterfeits out there, it's appropriate to make "exceptions" for those coins.

claychaser

<< <i>A Genuine holder is the same as a body bag, so why not???? >>



I do not agree that a genuice holder is the same as a body bag in this case. The Genuine holder gives the buyer assurance that the coin is a real 16-D. A body bag flip, where a fake coin could be substituted for the gneuine coin, does not.

HoledandCreative

I wish they would details-grade them along with the Genuine slab. They are graders, not just authenticators.

pocketpiececommems

I'm glad to see this one get HOLEdered

Monstavet

Messydesk has a good eye. Were it not for the reverse die rotation, the oh-so-valuable mint mark would have been drilled right out of existence. Funny twist of fate that.