Anyone care to grade this 1886 S dime?
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A few hints, it is UNC and it is CAC stickered
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edited to say: I could never take a hint, so 62 then.
Obverse fields are mostly scuffy and devoid of luster. Some scuffing on the high points. It no doubt saw some circulation or handing. But even coins less than full luster get a mint state pass these days if the rub is not obvious. For a 63 or better grade I'd like to see the obv fields more like the reverse fields. A choice to gem coin should have obvious luster on the rims, which this doesn't appear to have (ie worn off). Could also be a 61. Would have been an AU58 back in 1988.
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In my opinion the surfaces are solid MS63 and the original, undipped surfaces are a premium. I never did try and see what PCGS said about the coin but may do just that.
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It's a very nice AU58.
JMHO
<< <i>Definitely not unc....look at her right leg and knee. >>
Without seeing it in person and moving it around in a light, we can't say "definitely." We'd need to examine the coin in hand for clear luster breaks to be "definite" about it. You may be right from a technical standard depending on the luster breaks with the coin in hand, but this is no "market graded" AU in most cases, and coins like this that get into AU-58 holders tend to get MS money anyway (if not cracked out and resubmitted).
My thought was strong 62 with a shot at 63, assuming no obvious luster breaks when examining the coin personally.
<< <i>Definitely not unc....look at her right leg and knee.
It's a very nice AU58.
JMHO >>
Definitely not "definitely not unc." and I looked at the areas you noted, along with others.
All I know is that I would not pay unc money for this coin and if I were selling it to a dealer he/she would not pay unc money for it either.
To me it looks like a typical NGC overgrade.
I would grade it a 63 if it was raw.
I can say if there was even a slight rub it would not have the grean bean.
Another coin that may be heading for crossover but I know PCGS does not love this type color.
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<< <i>All I know is that I would not pay unc money for this coin and if I were selling it to a dealer he/she would not pay unc money for it either. >>
Then don't. Doesn't change the fact that many people are paying into MS money for "super silders". As someone who was working on a type set of them a few years back, I learned this all too well.
I am in the MS 62 crowd.
I feel the coin is MS - and from what I
see as far as abrasions are concerned,
it qualifies for a 62 Grade.
If the coin were an AU - its a stunning AU
and an AU 58 at the very least.
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<< <i>If the coin were an AU - its a stunning AU
and an AU 58 at the very least. >>
Yeah, I guess I could amend my grade to simply say that I'd grade it "even if there's a little bit of rub there's no way in hell you get this for AU money."
am at a loss to explain all the AU grades we are hearing -- when a coin circulates it
loses luster and picks up circulation marks, and this coin shows neither. Tough crowd.
<< <i>I agree with CAC, it looks like a solid 62 that has a good chance to upgrade to 63. I
am at a loss to explain all the AU grades we are hearing -- when a coin circulates it
loses luster and picks up circulation marks, and this coin shows neither. Tough crowd. >>
BTW: Ziggy we miss your posting on the other pond
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The things keeping this coin from higher grades would be the scuffiness in the obverse fields. The luster has been significantly disturbed there. You can see plenty of luster on either side of her left lower arm, and on either side of "UNITED." You don't see it inbetween, and that's not because of toning.
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