condor token question

rxer

I know what a Condor token is and why they came into being- have seen many
beautiful examples right here on the forum- BUT where did the term Condor
come from- love the old copper

BlindedByEgo

I believe it's Conder?

named for James Conder, an early collector of tokens

Wikipedia is my first stop.

savoyspecial

James Conder was an early specialist in these copper tokens

rxer

simple enough- thanks guys

ThePennyLady

<< <i>James Conder was an early specialist in these copper tokens >>



It's my understanding that he was the first one to catalog "Conder" tokens or 18th Century British Provincial Tokens as they're known in Britain. Here's a LINK to the Conder Token Club which can provide a lot more information for you.

savoyspecial

true Charmy,
Dalton/Hamer is probably the most complete reference on the subject

Broadstruck

For even more info you could also post your question on the World & Ancient Coin Forum as these are Darkside Exonumia.

Justacommeman

There is also a digital D & H available which I find invaluable................MJ

giorgio11

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<< <i>James Conder was an early specialist in these copper tokens >>



It's my understanding that he was the first one to catalog "Conder" tokens or 18th Century British Provincial Tokens as they're known in Britain. Here's a LINK to the Conder Token Club which can provide a lot more information for you. >>



Actually James Conder was not the first, but his arrangement was the first that took with the broader collecting public. Among the earlier catalogers were Thomas Spence (1795), Samuel Burchall (1796), Charles Pye (Birmingham engraver, 1795 and 1801), and several other early (mostly small and inaccurate or incomplete to some degree). Then James Conder published "An Arrangement of Provincial Coins, Tokens and Medalets, issued in Great Britain, Ireland and the Colonies, within the last twenty years; from the farthing to the penny size; in two volumes, octavo, with three plates of illustrations" in 1798-99. The above is all paraphrased from the Intro to the original 1905 Dalton & Hamer.

American collectors today call them Conders, while British collectors, I understand, call them 18th century tradesmen's tokens. The 1797 "cartwheel pence and twopence" issued by George III largely ended the Conder token series.