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Congress to Review Chinese Fakes - From NN

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  • CoinRaritiesOnlineCoinRaritiesOnline Posts: 3,681 ✭✭✭✭
    That's great news!

    It can't hurt...
  • RWBRWB Posts: 8,082
    Kind of old news....was publiched on the 11th
  • RichieURichRichieURich Posts: 8,553 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That really is good news! Lots of possible things can be done, just need to decide what to do about the counterfeits.

    Maybe that colonial currency that said "To Counterfeit Is Death" was a good solution at the time and needs to be brought back. image

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  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,492 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>The Committee will also examine, it said, “methods to reduce the cost of minting coins” ............. >>



    Instead of eliminating the dollar bill, let's make the dollar coins "cheaper" to manufacture! image
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  • Raybob15239Raybob15239 Posts: 1,359 ✭✭✭
    From the article:
    "The language regarding the fakes is governmentese at its best. In the words of the plan, it would review 'efforts to detect and combat the counterfeiting of U.S. coins and currency in the United States and abroad,' and in a first, they stated that they 'will examine the counterfeiting of rare or investment-grade coins, U.S.-made and otherwise.'"

    Interesting... but I have a feeling that nothing will ever come of this.
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  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,729 ✭✭✭✭✭
    This is good news. Thank you for posting it.
    TD
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  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 35,844 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think little will come of it.

    Perhaps we will admonish the foreign governments.


    big deal.
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  • sinin1sinin1 Posts: 7,500
    wow, maybe they will find it cheaper to outsource and have

    chinese laborers make coinage
  • cladkingcladking Posts: 28,731 ✭✭✭✭✭
    This situation is unacceptable and I'm pleased to at least see some talk about it.

    King George I would have said "This will not stand". Obviously someone is at least able to say this must not stand.
    tempus fugit extra philosophiam.
  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,729 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Doing something is better than doing nothing.
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  • goldengolden Posts: 9,995 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It is about time someone looks into this.
  • cmerlo1cmerlo1 Posts: 7,960 ✭✭✭✭✭
    A strongly worded note will be prepared and sent to the Chinese, politely asking them to stop.
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  • << <i>A strongly worded note will be prepared and sent to the Chinese, politely asking them to stop. >>


    From what I understand, China's coins and currency are also being counterfeited. If they can't stop the counterfeits in their own currency I wouldn't expect to them to make stopping the fakes in foreign currency a priority.


  • << <i>Doing something is better than doing nothing. >>



    Not when the government and special interest are involved.


  • << <i>Doing something is better than doing nothing. >>


    Hopefully they will come up with something other than posturing and kicking the can down the road (what the usual outcome is).
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,834 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I think little will come of it. >>

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  • shorecollshorecoll Posts: 5,447 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Congresspeople and Senators come fairly cheap...just look at some of the piddling payments they receive for voting certain ways on particular bills. Unfortunately none of the wealthier people in our industry seem to want to buy enough politicians to make something happen. Our best bet is if we get tied in to something like software piracy where there is enough interest.
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  • cladkingcladking Posts: 28,731 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>A strongly worded note will be prepared and sent to the Chinese, politely asking them to stop. >>


    From what I understand, China's coins and currency are also being counterfeited. If they can't stop the counterfeits in their own currency I wouldn't expect to them to make stopping the fakes in foreign currency a priority. >>




    My understanding is that it's currently perfectly legal to make any sort of
    counterfeit in China. Just driving this underground would be a giant step
    in the right direction.

    It would also help China by making their products appear to be better or
    at least that they recognize trademarks, patents, and sovereign currency.

    A lot of people just won't touch anything made in Chine due to the per-
    ception that it is inferior or possibly even dangerous. Obviously counter-
    feits fit into the dangerous category.
    tempus fugit extra philosophiam.
  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 35,844 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Doing something is better than doing nothing. >>




    true.


    What suggestions could be made to stem the flow ???


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  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,729 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Doing something is better than doing nothing. >>




    true.


    What suggestions could be made to stem the flow ??? >>



    If the Secret Service were to bust a few of the people selling multiple counterfeits on fleaBay and get a perp walk on the evening news, it would give some of the others pause. They would continue to sell at the flea markets and gun shows and the Chinatowns all across America, but some of the sales would be eliminated. And, it would eliminate the claim "The Secret Service does not care anymore."

    TD
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  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 35,844 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That and the Feds could start siezing the websites of places that wholesale these counterfeits.


    why not write your congressmen???


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  • FrankcoinsFrankcoins Posts: 4,571 ✭✭✭
    The counterfeiters are getting more and more brazen with their descriptions...

    Link

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