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Is this Mantle Rookie real ? Updated with price ! WOW

ezyshooterezyshooter Posts: 711
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Thanks in advance. Is this Mantle real? Also if it is what grade do you you think it will grade? PSA 1.5 or PSA 2 ?? I don't own it, at least not yet. Just wanted to make sure it is real first and obviously what you think is a fair price to pay for this card if it is real.
Cheers, Steve


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  • Sean1125Sean1125 Posts: 3,479
    There is someone on ebay who is printing and selling "old style" mantle rookies such as that.

    Basically his description says they use an old style printing press and vintage paper...

    I can't particularly tell you if it is real or fake but tbh I would steer clear.
  • ezyshooterezyshooter Posts: 711
    This is not on e-bay what so ever but a auction house near where i live. Don't want to bid on something that the auctioneer cannot guarantee it's authenticity. Been there before with a framed super bowl tickets of the first 40 super bowls. Auctioneer could not guarantee there authenticity so i did stay clear of it.
    Thanks, Steve
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  • Sean1125Sean1125 Posts: 3,479
    Well ask if you win it and it comes back not authentic if they will "buy" it back?

    I figure that way instead of being out the card you would just be out the grading fee.

    There are members here who know FAR more than me, so I would wait for one to chime in before making a decision.
  • akuracy503akuracy503 Posts: 1,923 ✭✭✭
    There is something off about the pixelation on the front, could be from the scan, looking for the honeycomb shaped pixelation but it seems to have a diaganol running pattern line of some sort.

    Other than that it seems to have all of the attributes of this variation of the '52 Mantle.

    I would personally never ever buy an ungraded vintage card that costs more than $200

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  • CNoteCNote Posts: 2,070 ✭
    If anyone owned one of these "authentic" cards, ask them why they haven't had it slabbed as Authentic by PSA or SGC.
  • ezyshooterezyshooter Posts: 711
    It's a partial set going up for auction. All the cards are in the same condition even the commons for the set so i figured this one might be authentic.
    Anybody else know if this is real or fake ?
    Cheers, Steve
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  • MantleMarisFordBerraMantleMarisFordBerra Posts: 1,706 ✭✭✭
    This might help. Good luck!!
  • WalterSobchakWalterSobchak Posts: 2,096


    << <i>I would personally never ever buy an ungraded vintage card that costs more than $200 >>



    This is about where I am. Maybe a little more if I knew and trusted the seller, but not much more. I have enough anxiety in my life already.

    As for this particular card, I don't see any obvious red flags..... but when a card worth five grand is being sold raw, you have to sort of wonder why.
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  • BrickBrick Posts: 4,999 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The only reason anyone who knows anything about PSA, SGC and 52 Mantles would not have that card graded is knowledge or belief it would not be authentic. Possible that it has already been rejected.
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  • HeritageAddictHeritageAddict Posts: 3,266
    I'm sure you will have a better idea when you see it in person and can compare it to the other cards in the lot. Good luck though, I've never been to a live auction where sportscards didn't bring 10x what they are really worth.
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  • ezyshooterezyshooter Posts: 711
    Well after going threw all the different fakes i seem to think the card is legit. I'll be looking with my 10 X loop before auction just to verify the authenticity of card. I'll be bidding if it's real but with the intention of if the card came back as only authentic. I think the card is legit and hopefully no tampered with. Will not tell until in hand anyways.
    I'll keep you posted what it does sell for and if indeed is authentic.
    Cheers, Steve

    PS. This is a version B 1952 Mantle
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  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    I'm thinking it was not slabbed because it will only get the Authentic designation.

    Seller may be hoping a buyer might be thinking it may 1 or 2.

    WAG.


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    Good for you.
  • fkwfkw Posts: 1,766 ✭✭
    If its part of a partial oldschool set, then compare it with a common card in person, should be very easy to tell in person.

    From the bad scan..... its not 100% either way. Try to get a better scan.



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    << I would personally never ever buy an ungraded vintage card that costs more than $200 >>

    The more for me image there are far far more vintage cards raw than graded and always will be.

  • ezyshooterezyshooter Posts: 711
    Well went to auction and guess what ? The Mantle was original. That is a first for me having a original mantle at an auction like this.
    Bad news, i never stood a chance at getting this card. Auctioneer asked for 10,000.00 opening bid. Obviously nobody bid but guess what, the auctions opening bid started at 2,000.00.
    I chuckled when this happened. Opening bid started way more then what i was going to bid for this. It ended up at 7,000.00 not including the 13 percent buyers premium.
    Yes, over 7,000+ dollars for this Mantle. What a joke.
    Highlights of the auction that did go for descent prices was a complete 1965 Topps football set. Condition varied from EX at worse to even mint cards with the main rookie being in ex/mint condition.
    I wasn't sure on prices for this set because i collect mainly hockey. The set went for 1550.00 plus juice.
    Another highlight which i am kicking myself in the a$$ is the uncut sheet of 1980/81 Basketball with the main rookie crease free. That went for 225.00 plus juice.
    As far as any other cards or sets i believe these were the best deals. Most other cards went for stupid prices including of course the Mantle !!
    Well just had to share.
    Steve
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  • wallst32wallst32 Posts: 513 ✭✭
    Well you said it was a partial set right? Maybe not so crazy for $7K if other stars were included or likely other high numbers since the Mantle was present.
  • bobbyw8469bobbyw8469 Posts: 7,139 ✭✭✭
    The Namath rookie card set selling for $1550, if the Namarth was indeed a true EX/MT (PSA 6) condition, was a STEAL!!!!
  • canjondcanjond Posts: 422 ✭✭✭
    IMO, from the scan, 100% fake. Usually one of the first things to look for is the "R" in "York" on the jersey (where it touches the border). On genuine '52 Topps Mantles, the black color in the "R" is almost the same shade of black in the border. If there is a big color variance - fake.
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  • RoarIn84RoarIn84 Posts: 859 ✭✭
    Well, first off, STOP calling this a Mantle rookie or you deserve to get took..... Second, If the pixellation looks as bad on the card as it does in the scan, then yes, it is a horrible fake. But, I have seen many bad scans of authentic cards that turn up pixellated. If that is so, i would say it is real because rarely on a fake does the centering vary so much from front to back. I'd stay away tho........
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