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LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,460 ✭✭✭✭✭
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So far I would give it a B-.

I can easily see how it could become a vital tool for dealers and collectors.

But, so far, there are alot of problems.

Having to log in multiple times to use the features is bad enough but today, the links have been simply not working most of the day, again not working tonight. image
"My friends who see my collection sometimes ask what something costs. I tell them and they are in awe at my stupidity." (Baccaruda, 12/03).I find it hard to believe that he (Trump) rushed to some hotel to meet girls of loose morals, although ours are undoubtedly the best in the world. (Putin 1/17) Gone but not forgotten. IGWT, Speedy, Bear, BigE, HokieFore, John Burns, Russ, TahoeDale, Dahlonega, Astrorat, Stewart Blay, Oldhoopster, Broadstruck, Ricko, Big Moose, Cardinal.
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  • llafoellafoe Posts: 7,220 ✭✭
    I think a B- is fair. It's still a work in progress... with so many new subscribers, maybe they'll be able to hire a few data entry people to update all the coins?
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  • CalebCaleb Posts: 739 ✭
    The B – is way too generous. The best grade I could give Coin Facts at this time is a solid D maybe a D + on a good day.
  • tjc2120tjc2120 Posts: 714 ✭
    Multiple log ins and overall slowness drove me away. I hope to go back when those issues are worked out. A on content, B- ease of use.
    "spot on my UHR, nevermind, I wiped it off"
  • blu62vetteblu62vette Posts: 11,945 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I like it. The auction records have me raising my grade all the time
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  • tightbudgettightbudget Posts: 7,299 ✭✭✭
    That's about right. If they had more pictures for coins in each grade, I would bump them to a B or a B+. I really do like the past auction price realized function though I think that could be improved in some ways too (like calculating average selling price over user-defined timespan, etc.)
  • llafoellafoe Posts: 7,220 ✭✭
    I've never had an issue with being logged out while I was logged in... I suspect it's due to PCGS updating information throughout the day. They need to complete their updates and then batch them at 3am daily. That should preclude being logged off during the day.
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  • lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,893 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Until response time is improved I grade it C- at best. I love what's there but just can't stand the wait, particularly when you want to check out a few things quickly.
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  • LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,460 ✭✭✭✭✭
    When I compare it to AskArt.com for instance, they are always up and current. I don't mind paying their fee.

    When I'm shipped a coin today that I need to return tomorrow (if I don't buy it), I need access to information NOW, not tomorrow........
    "My friends who see my collection sometimes ask what something costs. I tell them and they are in awe at my stupidity." (Baccaruda, 12/03).I find it hard to believe that he (Trump) rushed to some hotel to meet girls of loose morals, although ours are undoubtedly the best in the world. (Putin 1/17) Gone but not forgotten. IGWT, Speedy, Bear, BigE, HokieFore, John Burns, Russ, TahoeDale, Dahlonega, Astrorat, Stewart Blay, Oldhoopster, Broadstruck, Ricko, Big Moose, Cardinal.
  • MarkBenMarkBen Posts: 154
    There is almost no information about patterns. They should have more info.
  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The pic resolution is far too large as when I click on them to view them they freeze my PC until they load.
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  • llafoellafoe Posts: 7,220 ✭✭


    << <i>The pic resolution is far too large as when I click on them to view them they freeze my PC until they load. >>



    They are very LARGE! image I have a 21" monitor and I still have to scroll (approximately 250%) to view the whole coin. I hope PCGS doesn't start using these photos to grade my coins! image
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  • KoveKove Posts: 2,038 ✭✭✭✭
    I like CoinFacts, and use it frequently without issue. The photos in the Commem section are great, and having the population information, auction results, and PCGS price guide info right there is convenient. I also like David Hall's written commentary on each commem (although it appears he's stopped Commems at Grant and is now focused on large cents).

    PCGS has taken on a very ambitious project with CoinFacts. It's worth the subscription price in my opinion. Hopefully any network issues can be addressed if folks are having those issues.
  • QuarterCollectorQuarterCollector Posts: 1,384 ✭
    I like it, use it often, and recommend it to others. Logging on multiple times is a pain though.
  • illini420illini420 Posts: 11,466 ✭✭✭✭✭
    So far probably a C+

    It's pretty cool to be able to see some of the information, but the pages load so slowly. Most of the time, it's just faster for me to go to the Price Guide or the Pop Report directly instead of going to CoinFacts because those load much faster for some reason.

    Also, the auction history is pretty neat, but it needs some work. Searching for grade doesn't always work for me, especially for copper coins for some reason. Also, I noticed you can't search for + graded coins in the auction history yet and it's also not good when a + graded coin is sold it just appears in the auction history as a normal coin. For example, when a MS67+ monster sells at auction for a huge price, it shows up on CoinFacts looking like an MS67 that just sold for a bunch.

    The few coin listings that have the expert narratives are great (the ones that are longer than a couple of sentences at least). But it seems like 90% of the coins I look at have no narrative written.

    Having quick access to all of the coins that have been TrueViewed is pretty neat though, even though the pics are huge. It's cool to be able to see the huge pics sometimes, but there should be a way to see the medium sized TrueView as well. Right now it's either small or mega-huge!

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  • ModCrewmanModCrewman Posts: 4,041 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I haven't yet subscribed, just enjoy the 1x per day freebie; and have been considering trying a subscription. I wonder where their prime price point is for number of subscribers vs. price per subscription? And if they'd gain enough subscribers by dropping the price to maybe $5.95 or $6.95 to actually generate more revenue overall at a lower price point. If I were a full-time dealer I'd see it as an essential tool; but for "just a hobbyist" as myself it's a balance between "that'd be nice" and "not sure I'd use it that much."

    Perhaps they could consider an "a la carte" subscription; like $.99 or $1.99 for a one day access; so when a hobbyist wanted to use it for a day they could. Or perhaps a 7-day rate?

    I'd assume the comments here will be heard by DW & HRH and the concerns will be addressed. Great thread. image
  • tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,200 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm using it more and more but I agree the multiple logins are time consuming and annoying. And I wish there were moderate sized images then huge ones when you click on the smaller ones.
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  • Dollar2007Dollar2007 Posts: 773 ✭✭✭


    << <i>The pic resolution is far too large as when I click on them to view them they freeze my PC until they load. >>



    I saw it posted here before about large pictures, and it kind of annoys me. I am using a $400 computer bought three years ago and have no problems with the large images, I can even let a couple load in the background at once. I don't think images should be made smaller just because people have old computers. The big images have come in handy to really see a coin.

    I do like Coin Facts, but think a $9.99 price point or below would bring in a lot of people, its current monthly rate is kind of high.

    Edit: Are people with image problems using Internet Explorer? If so I would recommend Firefox or Chrome. Images on Internet Explorer are slower for me but still don't freeze my computer.
  • CatbertCatbert Posts: 7,600 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I see myself subscribing at a future point after some of these bugs have worked themselves out. I want to be able to use my iPhone to access, but am very concerned about image size, slow downloads, and having to sign in multiple times as being way more pain than the value.
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  • LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,460 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm finding quite a few errors in the auction records, dutifuly reporting them to PCGS as they crop up.

    Not sure how that info is initially collected and distributed.

    Once they get it right, CoinFacts will be a gold mine. image
    "My friends who see my collection sometimes ask what something costs. I tell them and they are in awe at my stupidity." (Baccaruda, 12/03).I find it hard to believe that he (Trump) rushed to some hotel to meet girls of loose morals, although ours are undoubtedly the best in the world. (Putin 1/17) Gone but not forgotten. IGWT, Speedy, Bear, BigE, HokieFore, John Burns, Russ, TahoeDale, Dahlonega, Astrorat, Stewart Blay, Oldhoopster, Broadstruck, Ricko, Big Moose, Cardinal.
  • cmerlo1cmerlo1 Posts: 7,960 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I don't use it very often, but it's great when I do.
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  • rld14rld14 Posts: 2,390 ✭✭✭
    If it wasn't painfully slow, I would like it better.
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  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,800 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I'm using it more and more but I agree the multiple logins are time consuming and annoying. And I wish there were moderate sized images then huge ones when you click on the smaller ones. >>


    I agree. I also feel that navigation is slow and clunky but considerably improved.
    My Box of 20: https://pcgs.com/setregistry/collectors-showcase/box-20/ryks-gold-box-20/17132
  • richardshipprichardshipp Posts: 5,647 ✭✭✭
    As has been stated, the multiple log in and slow to load pages have reduced my usage there to "only as needed". I do love the content but just don't have the patience.
  • AnkurJAnkurJ Posts: 11,370 ✭✭✭✭
    Besides having to log on over and over again, its not bad.
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  • LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,460 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Please let us know what you were trying to do when the error occurred.

    Same results today...... image
    "My friends who see my collection sometimes ask what something costs. I tell them and they are in awe at my stupidity." (Baccaruda, 12/03).I find it hard to believe that he (Trump) rushed to some hotel to meet girls of loose morals, although ours are undoubtedly the best in the world. (Putin 1/17) Gone but not forgotten. IGWT, Speedy, Bear, BigE, HokieFore, John Burns, Russ, TahoeDale, Dahlonega, Astrorat, Stewart Blay, Oldhoopster, Broadstruck, Ricko, Big Moose, Cardinal.
  • clackamasclackamas Posts: 5,615 ✭
    I like it, and I really like the large photos, I know everyone does not like them. They do have small versions, that is the thumbnail. I would say a B- is a fair grade, overall worth it IMO.
  • bidaskbidask Posts: 14,028 ✭✭✭✭✭
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  • blu62vetteblu62vette Posts: 11,945 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I dont have the login issues others seem to have. I stay logged in for days at a time and dont login separate between other pages.
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  • LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,460 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Todd:

    When you first log in, where do you start?? Maybe you're onto something??image
    "My friends who see my collection sometimes ask what something costs. I tell them and they are in awe at my stupidity." (Baccaruda, 12/03).I find it hard to believe that he (Trump) rushed to some hotel to meet girls of loose morals, although ours are undoubtedly the best in the world. (Putin 1/17) Gone but not forgotten. IGWT, Speedy, Bear, BigE, HokieFore, John Burns, Russ, TahoeDale, Dahlonega, Astrorat, Stewart Blay, Oldhoopster, Broadstruck, Ricko, Big Moose, Cardinal.
  • jomjom Posts: 3,487 ✭✭✭✭✭
    During my trial run I've had to log in at least twice for some reason...

    The pictures are slow and so are a few of the links. Some links go nowhere actually. Having auction records ALL IN ONE PLACE is great but I don't think this is worth much more than $10 per month when it gets up to speed.

    Overall: C

    Keep improving!

    jom


  • blu62vetteblu62vette Posts: 11,945 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Todd:

    When you first log in, where do you start?? Maybe you're onto something??image >>



    I was last on coinfacts Sunday night at a hotel drooling over auction records and looking at the coins I bought that day. Auction records were double what I paid so I was happy.

    Today I am back at home. Went to PCGS.com, hit coinfacts, was already logged in and went to a coinfacts page. No problems.

    Edit: Same computer used both locations.
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  • orevilleoreville Posts: 12,144 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Comments:

    Pattern info is minimal.
    Logging in is VERY annoying. Half the time I can't even find where to log in.
    The other half of the time, I might be logged in to the coin prices and pop report but NOT into CoinFacts.

    Overall, I would give it a C+ but certainly it is improving. After all, "Rome was not built in a day."

    A suggestion; I will treat a travelling PCGS contracted photographer to breakfast, lunch, dinner and one overnight hotel stay to take photographs of my patterns and other slabbed coins at MY location rather than shipping them all to PCGS or bringing them all down to PCGS at a trade show.

    Possibly PCGS might offer an aspiring photographer an internship to take some nice pictures and travel at a modest weekly stipend during the summer which covers all travel expenses by automobile?
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  • thecoinlookthecoinlook Posts: 356 ✭
    I grade it VG-F. The estimated survival numbers were way off with nearly everything I looked at. But there is some good information. A long way from MS.
  • BullsitterBullsitter Posts: 5,893 ✭✭✭✭✭
    No problems with the log on issue. Stay logged in for days at a time.

    I like the survival #s the best............image
  • crypto79crypto79 Posts: 8,623 ✭
    I am a yearly paid memeber and while I don't think I have or will get my money out of it I think of it as an investment to the future of the hobby. I thik we can all agree that it is a huge project that will one day be one of the finest hobby resources avaiblie(in any hobby) making the hobby a much more inviting place to be and will pay divadends on the hobby and our collections.
  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,800 ✭✭✭✭✭
    My favorite and least favorite aspect is the image display.

    What I like about it:

    Multiple high resolution images of the same issue, in various conditions.

    What I do not like about it:

    Images are too large when you click on the coin
    There are too many gold issues with too few images, a problem which should be corrected over time
    Some of the image quality and style is subpar
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  • jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 10,599 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I agree with TDN, the pics should be made smaller then mouse click if larger ones are needed.
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  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,492 ✭✭✭✭
    A+

    IMO, slow response time can and often is related to location. I'm on the West Coast.

    DLRC on the East Coast, is molasses slow. The IKE Group on the East Coast, is even slower.

    Logins for PCGSCoinFacts used to be an issue for me but not any more. Just now I brought up the site and did not have to login.

    Pictures can be a probelm but I do enjoy the large images which always open in a separate window for me and it does not matter how many I click (within reason) my system response does not seem to be hindered.

    As a side note, anybody that wants to add something to PCGS Coin Facts need only contact Ron Guth ( rguth@collectors.com ). He bends over backwards to insure that the site has the information that it needs but can in no way do it all by himself. I got information regarding Eisenhower Dollars added quite easily to the IKE Dollar page.

    If you want photo's of Varieties, they'll have to be submitted to PCGS for photographing as the standard seems to be TrueView LARGE Images. Medium Images would work just as well and the reality of the situation is that if you know how to negotiate the PCGS Image site, Large Images can usually be found for any trueview photographed coin. ( www.pcgs.com/Trueview/"large|medium"/certnumber.jpg try: http://www.pcgs.com/Trueview/Large/14116111.jpg OR http://www.pcgs.com/Trueview/Medium/14116111.jpg OR http://www.pcgs.com/Trueview/14116111.jpg )

    Again, contact Ron Guth. It's his baby and I'm positive the he and PCGS want to see it mature into a useful tool that all subscribers are proud to use.
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  • LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,460 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Agree that Ron has been great AND responsive. image

    Just hope he's getting the support he deserves for a project of this magnitude.
    "My friends who see my collection sometimes ask what something costs. I tell them and they are in awe at my stupidity." (Baccaruda, 12/03).I find it hard to believe that he (Trump) rushed to some hotel to meet girls of loose morals, although ours are undoubtedly the best in the world. (Putin 1/17) Gone but not forgotten. IGWT, Speedy, Bear, BigE, HokieFore, John Burns, Russ, TahoeDale, Dahlonega, Astrorat, Stewart Blay, Oldhoopster, Broadstruck, Ricko, Big Moose, Cardinal.
  • ranshdowranshdow Posts: 1,442 ✭✭✭✭
    I don't use it that frequently, but I've had the same issue with logins and navigation.

    It'd be great if it came with the full PCGS price guide with all single number grades, ie AU55, 58, MS60, 61, etc. rather than asking you to sign up for the full price guide. image
  • scottgardenerscottgardener Posts: 1,205 ✭
    I have not had the log on issues, and it seems to load fine and quickly for me. Having it handy online and thus on my smart phone when coin shopping is really convenient. I recommend it to anyone who pays $1000 or more for coins four or more times a year. Collectors on a smaller budget would be fine using the Red Book and free info online, but an advanced collector or one who wants to both collect and invest really benefits from the population stats and more so from the commentary. It is also fun reading material at home on an iPad.
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  • 500Bay500Bay Posts: 1,108 ✭✭✭
    I'm curious about the 1861-S 25C Seated Quarter survival estimate of 60 coins. I think they must have have missed an extra '0' - it is not that rare.

    I've only looked at it on a trial basis, mostly I like it.
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  • jsfjsf Posts: 1,889
    I want to get CoinFacts eventually, maybe for a month out of each quarter. That's about how seldom I buy anymore. I held off signing up earlyon, expecting trouble like many of you cited here.

    I expect a few more glitchy spells as PCGS works to implement other changes to their web identity, namely this forum at some point. I seem to have been seeing some hesitation with these boards in the past few days, myself.

    That CoinFacts project has to be a woolly booger. image

    eh, Rome wasn't built in a day.
  • LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,460 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Could someone help me out??

    Go to coin facts, then territorials, then Moffat, then 1853 $20, then auction history.

    Are you able to access it?? I've been unable to for 3 days and on 3 different computers/locations.

    Thanks! I'm trrying to figure out if the problem is on my end or what. image
    "My friends who see my collection sometimes ask what something costs. I tell them and they are in awe at my stupidity." (Baccaruda, 12/03).I find it hard to believe that he (Trump) rushed to some hotel to meet girls of loose morals, although ours are undoubtedly the best in the world. (Putin 1/17) Gone but not forgotten. IGWT, Speedy, Bear, BigE, HokieFore, John Burns, Russ, TahoeDale, Dahlonega, Astrorat, Stewart Blay, Oldhoopster, Broadstruck, Ricko, Big Moose, Cardinal.
  • blu62vetteblu62vette Posts: 11,945 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Could someone help me out??

    Go to coin facts, then territorials, then Moffat, then 1853 $20, then auction history.

    Are you able to access it?? I've been unable to for 3 days and on 3 different computers/locations.

    Thanks! I'm trrying to figure out if the problem is on my end or what. image >>



    Under Cal gold? I got the same auction error. I got to all of it without logging in.......
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  • blu62vetteblu62vette Posts: 11,945 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Could someone help me out??

    Go to coin facts, then territorials, then Moffat, then 1853 $20, then auction history.

    Are you able to access it?? I've been unable to for 3 days and on 3 different computers/locations.

    Thanks! I'm trrying to figure out if the problem is on my end or what. image >>



    Must be a bad link, it works when searching though auction history:

    link
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  • LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,460 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Todd:

    Thanks - that might be the problem.
    "My friends who see my collection sometimes ask what something costs. I tell them and they are in awe at my stupidity." (Baccaruda, 12/03).I find it hard to believe that he (Trump) rushed to some hotel to meet girls of loose morals, although ours are undoubtedly the best in the world. (Putin 1/17) Gone but not forgotten. IGWT, Speedy, Bear, BigE, HokieFore, John Burns, Russ, TahoeDale, Dahlonega, Astrorat, Stewart Blay, Oldhoopster, Broadstruck, Ricko, Big Moose, Cardinal.
  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,800 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I was able to search the auction history for an 1853 $20 Moffat on CoinFacts last week without any problem. image

    Edit: I did not find it. image
    My Box of 20: https://pcgs.com/setregistry/collectors-showcase/box-20/ryks-gold-box-20/17132
  • HKstrongsideHKstrongside Posts: 288 ✭✭
    Costs to many "coins" for my liking. Drop the price significantly and I would consider a subscription. I have a hard time paying a premium for information that can be found for free without much effort.
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  • DonWillisDonWillis Posts: 961 ✭✭✭
    We added a "Rate a Page" and feedback feature to every page in CoinFacts a couple weeks ago.

    Now you can help us make the system even better by sending us your comments. If we are missing something, or there is an error, or if you would simply like to emblish what is already there, we really appreciate your help.

    Every comment is reviewed by the CoinFacts team.

    You can really make a difference! Please help us make PCGS CoinFacts even better.

    thanks.

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