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  • tahoe98tahoe98 Posts: 11,388 ✭✭✭

    ...someone told me if you put it in water and it floats, it's bad.






























    or was that an egg image
    "government is not reason, it is not eloquence-it is a force! like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master; never for a moment should it be left to irresponsible action." George Washington
  • AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 24,932 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>...someone told me if you put it in water and it floats, it's bad.






























    or was that an egg image >>




    Thanks for the bump! Oh, and yes, that's an egg!
    Registry: CC lowballs (boblindstrom), bobinvegas1989@yahoo.com


  • << <i>Do the fake slabs stack like the real ones? Yes, but with a bit more give.

    Do they weigh the same? Slightly lighter, not by much.

    Are they the exact same size? Yes.

    Are they made of the same material? No, and that's the saving grace. The plastic is "whiter" and appears cheaper looking. Of course, you need a genuine PCGS slab next to it to bring this fact into focus.

    Was wondering in the middle of the night if a simple stack test or weight test could help determine the
    authenticity of the slab. For instance, an Uncirculated Barber Half in PCGS plastic will weigh xx.x ounces.
    Will a fake Barber Half in plastic weigh the same? If the plastic has the same weight then you could tell
    the weight of the coin within by putting on a scale. Tolerances at the Mints were very close and a non
    90/10 silver/copper would show up as light.

    The fakes, of of right now, can be easily spotted against the genuine.*




    *Subject the change.

    Just a thought.

    bobimage >>

  • The questions presume that the fakes are all coming from a single source, and from the same production run, without any adjustments in quality. Some of the early fakes were crude and were easy to spot even from a photograph. Corrections were made to get closer. Current fakes are likely near visually perfect. Look at it this way, if "they" can crank out a fake and functional Iphone within a week of release of the real thing, they almost certainly get a piece of plastic mostly right, when the stakes might be thousands of dollars per fake passed.

    Publishing public information as to what might be wrong with the fake slabs, can tip the counterfeiters and tell them what they need to fix for the next production run. It is a difficult situation, because PCGS doesn't want folks to get duped, but they also don't want to tip off the counterfeiters with public announcements as far as what they need to fix.

    Also keep in mind that there are many generations of PCGS slabs likely with minor minute differences from one supply batch to the next, even if the basic design is the same.
  • crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 14,068 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>...someone told me if you put it in water and it floats, it's bad.
    Your talking about a witch....






























    or was that an egg image >>

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    The bitterness of "Poor Quality" is remembered long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten.
  • joebb21joebb21 Posts: 4,769 ✭✭✭✭✭
    and if the fake slab people know exactly what the mistakes are, Im sure they will figure out how to fix them.

    but you ask a good question.
    Wish the answer didnt have such a negative side to public knowing
    may the fonz be with you...always...
  • From what I can determine , PCGS has/will give out nothing with regards to fake PCGS slabs

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