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My contractor offered me a 1854-S proof $20 today.

LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,464 ✭✭✭✭✭
Said he had bought it in Vegas in the early 1970's. Had been saving it for a rainy day.

His daughter needed some help with her home. He figured it was time to sell.

When he showed it to me, it looked like a nice proof with unusually frosty devices.

It felt light.....the reverse said "Copy".

Needless to say, he was disappointed. Even after I pointed out "Copy", he couldn't see it (failing eyesight). image
"My friends who see my collection sometimes ask what something costs. I tell them and they are in awe at my stupidity." (Baccaruda, 12/03).I find it hard to believe that he (Trump) rushed to some hotel to meet girls of loose morals, although ours are undoubtedly the best in the world. (Putin 1/17) Gone but not forgotten. IGWT, Speedy, Bear, BigE, HokieFore, John Burns, Russ, TahoeDale, Dahlonega, Astrorat, Stewart Blay, Oldhoopster, Broadstruck, Ricko, Big Moose, Cardinal.

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  • llafoellafoe Posts: 7,220 ✭✭
    Was it DCarr? We know he can't see 'COPY'! image Just kidding Daniel... you know I love ya! I really love ya after you sold all those 1964-D Peace dollars! image Now if only I could sell this one my uncle got at the mint in 1964! imageimage
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  • joebb21joebb21 Posts: 4,774 ✭✭✭✭✭
    hope he didnt pay anything serious for it...
    Also it does say copy on it...
    may the fonz be with you...always...
  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Wow!!image
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,897 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm sure coin dealers have this issue on a regular basis---telling people their prized coin is worth very little.

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
    "Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire

  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 36,065 ✭✭✭✭✭
    They had the HPA in the 70's?

    He had failing eyesight in the 70's?

    He still a contractor with failing eyesight?

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  • AMRCAMRC Posts: 4,280 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Sad story.
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  • tahoe98tahoe98 Posts: 11,388 ✭✭✭


    << <i>They had the HPA in the 70's?

    He had failing eyesight in the 70's?

    He still a contractor with failing eyesight? >>



    ...hmmmmmm, image
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  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,814 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>They had the HPA in the 70's?

    He had failing eyesight in the 70's?

    He still a contractor with failing eyesight? >>



    The HPA was passed in 1973.
    Your other two questions have merit.
    That said, these nice shiny "Proof" replicas only go back about 15 years or so.
    Whatever.
    TD
    Numismatist. 50 year member ANA. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Winner numerous NLG Literary Awards.
  • DentuckDentuck Posts: 3,824 ✭✭✭
    Jeff Garrett and Ron Guth, in the Encyclopedia of U.S. Gold Coins, 1795-1933, describe the 1854-S as a presentation strike, rather than a true Proof. "The coin is probably the first coin struck for the year, being a presentation example to recognize the opening of the San Francisco Mint in 1854."

    That would be sweet, to own a coin that only the Smithsonian has another example of! Poor failing-eyesight contractor. :-(



  • LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,464 ✭✭✭✭✭
    He claims he's into it for around $450 - perhaps he has good eyesight and was playing me for the chump?? image

    By the way, he owns the company, he doesn't do the work (brick and stone). image
    "My friends who see my collection sometimes ask what something costs. I tell them and they are in awe at my stupidity." (Baccaruda, 12/03).I find it hard to believe that he (Trump) rushed to some hotel to meet girls of loose morals, although ours are undoubtedly the best in the world. (Putin 1/17) Gone but not forgotten. IGWT, Speedy, Bear, BigE, HokieFore, John Burns, Russ, TahoeDale, Dahlonega, Astrorat, Stewart Blay, Oldhoopster, Broadstruck, Ricko, Big Moose, Cardinal.
  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,556 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>He claims he's into it for around $450 - perhaps he has good eyesight and was playing me for the chump?? image

    By the way, he owns the company, he doesn't do the work (brick and stone). image >>



    Are you expanding on your castle? Putting up another tower? A moat?

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  • mikeygmikeyg Posts: 1,002




    Hate to be negative but it sounds like your contractor got a cheap copy of an old coin and then tried to sell it for a few hundred bucks.Hope I am wrong but...image
  • ColonelJessupColonelJessup Posts: 6,442 ✭✭✭✭✭
    "People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." - Geo. Orwell
  • ColonelJessupColonelJessup Posts: 6,442 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Assuming this is not a present-day scam:

    ,People who build castles in the sky may be neurotic, but it's only psychotics who want to live in them.

    Reality not only sucks, sometimes it bites!
    "People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." - Geo. Orwell
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,897 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Hate to be negative but it sounds like your contractor got a cheap copy of an old coin and then tried to sell it for a few hundred bucks.Hope I am wrong but...image >>



    I had that same thought. As a successful contractor, he isn't stupid. He may have been "playing dumb like a fox".

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
    "Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire

  • LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,464 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I had that same thought. As a successful contractor, he isn't stupid. He may have been "playing dumb like a fox".

    The more I think about it, the less happy I am........
    "My friends who see my collection sometimes ask what something costs. I tell them and they are in awe at my stupidity." (Baccaruda, 12/03).I find it hard to believe that he (Trump) rushed to some hotel to meet girls of loose morals, although ours are undoubtedly the best in the world. (Putin 1/17) Gone but not forgotten. IGWT, Speedy, Bear, BigE, HokieFore, John Burns, Russ, TahoeDale, Dahlonega, Astrorat, Stewart Blay, Oldhoopster, Broadstruck, Ricko, Big Moose, Cardinal.

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