Bummer...purchased cracked PCGS slab on eBay
Constantine
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I received in the mail today a coin I purchased on eBay and well it is quite obvious this holder has been tampered with! I emailed the seller for a refund, I hopefully do not anticipate any issues but kind of a bummer.........
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Edited to add: NOW you post an image!
I just noticed you got rid of your dangling modifier... it makes my play on words less effective!
<< <i>Don't patronize drug dealers? >>
All kidding aside, I'm sorry and hope he makes it right for you. When you're really looking forward to something, getting that is like a punch in the gut.
<< <i>Don't patronize drug dealers?
Funny! BTW, for those that will not get this joke, I wrote "Bummer....purchased crack" and hit enter before filling out the title by accident. Now resolved, and I am in rehab lol.
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<< <i>Don't patronize drug dealers?
Funny! BTW, for those that will not get this joke, I wrote "Bummer....purchased crack" and hit enter before filling out the title by accident. Now resolved, and I am in rehab lol. >>
One day at a time, dude, one day at a time...
<< <i>You must be confused, wasn't there a brief period where PCGS used superglue?
Yes, afterall the banks glued the Morgan dollar rolls too, why not slabs?
<< <i>How does the COIN look? Based on the obverse image posted, it does not look like an over-graded coin that has been switched. My guess is that the coin in the holder is the one that PCGS originally graded. >>
I agree.
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<< <i>How does the COIN look? Based on the obverse image posted, it does not look like an over-graded coin that has been switched. My guess is that the coin in the holder is the one that PCGS originally graded. >>
I agree. >>
Also, agree---looks like a nice coin for a 63. Also, the two shells are sonically welded so there is sometimes a melted plastic appearance around the seam. Beside, who would waste their time and effort on an inexpensive coin such as this one?
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<< <i>You can reholder it for 10 bucks. I know it's an common date and all. Maybe ask the seller for the $10 reholdering fee?
Or better yet, just keep it as is, without anyone spending any money on anything.
<<Most of the time when people buy these old holders, they are buying the coin for the nostalgia of the holder. Having it reholdered would bust the fact that it's in an old holder. Plus, when PCGS saw that the holder was obviously resealed, I would think that a reholder fee would be out. It would be a grading fee. >>
I am not convinced that the holder has been opened and re-sealed.
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<< <i>You can reholder it for 10 bucks. I know it's an common date and all. Maybe ask the seller for the $10 reholdering fee?
Or better yet, just keep it as is, without anyone spending any money on anything.
<<Most of the time when people buy these old holders, they are buying the coin for the nostalgia of the holder. Having it reholdered would bust the fact that it's in an old holder. Plus, when PCGS saw that the holder was obviously resealed, I would think that a reholder fee would be out. It would be a grading fee. >>
I am not convinced that the holder has been opened and re-sealed. >>
Its possilbe it got dropped and landed just right to rupture that seam on the edge which the owner tried to reseal with super glue.
Just throwing out thoughts since the coin does look accurately graded.
The name is LEE!
<< <i>You can reholder it for 10 bucks. I know it's an common date and all. Maybe ask the seller for the $10 reholdering fee?
I would think a holder that has been tampered with invalidates the grade guarantee therefore it can't be reholdered without it being graded again (as coppercoins said).
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<< <i>You can reholder it for 10 bucks. I know it's an common date and all. Maybe ask the seller for the $10 reholdering fee?
I would think a holder that has been tampered with invalidates the grade guarantee therefore it can't be reholdered without it being graded again (as coppercoins said). >>
In all actuality, it probably could be reholdered for the $10 since the coins grade appears to be consistant with the slab AND slabs do get dropped and cracked all the time.
Having said that, if the OP wants to send it back to his seller, then thats perfectly fine but folks need to know that there was a reason PCGS switched from these old rattler slabs as the could be opened, coins switched and then resealed but that does not "appear" to be the case with this particular coin.
Edited to add: Honestly, I can spell. I just can't type worth a damned. (Even had to correct this one!
The name is LEE!
<< <i>folks need to know that there was a reason PCGS switched from these old rattler slabs as the could be opened, coins switched and then resealed but that does not "appear" to be the case with this particular coin. >>
Actually, PCGS changed the holder because the first generation rattler holder was too easy to counterfeit. Someone actually counterfeited several hundred of these holders and used them to sell AU58 coins with high MS grades on the fake label. Mostly Morgans and Saints were involved and the perpertrator was caught and served some prison time.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
However, I not only bought the coin for the coin, but also the old rattler slab. The easiest thing is for me to return the coin and not bother in reholdering because I do not want the new slab anyway. Plus, I could get stuck with PCGS not reholdering it since the slab was opened at one time and then I have the grading fee and shipping, and well it just ain't worth it to me.
The seller seems like a small-time eBayer and probably had no clue. Hopefully the return will be smooth.
Edited to add........ALSO...I am quite happy with the two other coins that came in the same package. I was in a "vintage" holder mood that bidding day. Pics are with my iPhone so are not the best but the colors on the 1885-O are quite pretty in hand:
The old ANACS graders were often brutal on Morgans both of your pick ups look great from the images
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<< <i>the old PCI slabs were often pretty tight grade wise. I have several from this era and I really like the quality.
The old ANACS graders were often brutal on Morgans both of your pick ups look great from the images >>
Thanks. I agree with the PCI statement regarding the green inserts and the 10 digit code on the back. I have had zero complaints with the grades of the Morgans! I believe the later slabs with the gold insert is when they lost credibility.
Lance.
<< <i>The 1880 OGH looks perfectly normal. I feel sorry for the seller.
Lance. >>
Why would you say that you feel sorry for the seller?
Well....since you are not here to see the coin yourself, you can take my word that there are clumps of super glue around the edges. You would also see on the front of the holder where the glue was rubbed with a finger and it is all frosty and dull. I am not blaming the seller, as a matter of fact I even commented on being happy with the other two coins I purchased.