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USMoneyloverUSMoneylover Posts: 1,672 ✭✭✭
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Older white no prong holder. Forgive my pictures they were made with a 3.1mp P&S.
Thanks for your opinions!

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  • MikeInFLMikeInFL Posts: 10,188 ✭✭✭✭
    I grade the coin AU 50, and I find it VERY attractive and original looking compared to most of this issue.
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  • seanqseanq Posts: 8,735 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I grade the coin AU 50, and I find it VERY attractive and original looking compared to most of this issue. >>




    image AU50 was my first thought as well.


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  • gripgrip Posts: 9,962 ✭✭✭✭✭
    45,would like to see a little luster.
  • relicsncoinsrelicsncoins Posts: 8,111 ✭✭✭✭✭
    45 was my first thought.
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  • coinguy1coinguy1 Posts: 13,484 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I grade the coin AU 50, and I find it VERY attractive and original looking compared to most of this issue. >>

    I'll raise you 5 to AU55image
  • fcfc Posts: 12,793 ✭✭✭
    looks like a nice 45 to me.
  • TomBTomB Posts: 22,095 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm thinking EF45.
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  • AnkurJAnkurJ Posts: 11,370 ✭✭✭✭
    AU53
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  • shorecollshorecoll Posts: 5,447 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'll say AU55 and guess the slab says somewhere between AU50 and MS-63.
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  • MikeInFLMikeInFL Posts: 10,188 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>I grade the coin AU 50, and I find it VERY attractive and original looking compared to most of this issue. >>

    I'll raise you 5 to AU55image >>



    I'd buy it in a 55 or even a 53 holder too. image

    Hey wait a minute, I already did (NGC AU 53): image

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    [edited to add: after comparing my coin to the OP's coin, I would like to change my guess to AU 55 -- I like his coin more.]
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  • jdillanejdillane Posts: 2,365 ✭✭✭
    She's looks like an EF/AU coin. Straddles the line with meat and the extent of luster will tip her one way or the other.
  • MICHAELDIXONMICHAELDIXON Posts: 6,598 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The coin just doesn't "pop" for me. I'd grade it AU50.
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  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>The coin just doesn't "pop" for me. >>



    Image is very dark and lacks contrast... Tough to grade what you can't see image
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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,892 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>The coin just doesn't "pop" for me. >>



    Image is very dark and lacks contrast... Tough to grade what you can't see image >>



    Yup. Grading from those pics involves some guesswork but it appears AU55 give or take a grade.

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  • JRoccoJRocco Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That coin has nice 55 details and I have seen similar coins in 58 holders.
    I like this coin a lot
    Some coins are just plain "Interesting"
  • USMoneyloverUSMoneylover Posts: 1,672 ✭✭✭
    Thanks for all the participation/guesses regarding this coin. This coin is a dark chocolate color and was difficult for me to photograph, I was having a hard time not seeing my camera reflection off the slab when I really poured the light to it, and ended up increasing the exposure to compensate.(don't really know if this was the correct fix to my problem)

    The strike is mushy on the lower half of the coins obverse (stars, lower date and bust) and comparing it to MikeInFL's coin has a bit less wear on it. Some of you called the grade like it is on the holder XF45, but in my opinion and apparently some of yours that might be a little tough on this one.
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  • TomBTomB Posts: 22,095 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Compare your coin to this one, there are many similarities-

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  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,313 ✭✭✭✭✭
    A little bit of luster peeking through is what often gets NGC to grade these AU rather than XF45. This one does have it.

    Technically the coin is XF45 but would probably fetch AU50 money on its overall quality. No doubt we've all seen bust halves like that graded AU50-53. This one just didn't go in on one of those lucky days. It has enough detail imo. On a couple more submissions it could likely make AU50 on one of them.

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  • lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,893 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It's a nice CBH with AU53 details. Luster is hard to judge from those photos. It carries a lot of weight.

    I can see it as AU50. On a bad day at the office it's a 45. Resubmit it and you may get 50. Dip it for 53-55. image
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  • ConstantineConstantine Posts: 2,369 ✭✭✭
    EF45 due to flat lack of luster.
  • avenue7avenue7 Posts: 54
    EF 45 range, possibly AU 50
  • magikbillymagikbilly Posts: 6,780 ✭
    Hi,

    to me that looks 45. Very, very nice and original 45.

    Eric
  • JRoccoJRocco Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yes
    Some coins are just plain "Interesting"
  • RedHerringRedHerring Posts: 2,077 ✭
    My guess is it's in a NGC 53 holder. From the images I would say 50 sounds fair. I like it a lot!
  • USMoneyloverUSMoneylover Posts: 1,672 ✭✭✭


    << <i>It's a nice CBH with AU53 details. Luster is hard to judge from those photos. It carries a lot of weight.

    I can see it as AU50. On a bad day at the office it's a 45. Resubmit it and you may get 50. Dip it for 53-55. image
    Lance. >>



    I agree with this assessment, but I wouldn't crack it out to get a 50, and definitely wouldn't dip it to get 55, I like it nice and original image
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  • capecape Posts: 1,621 ✭
    I'm with the au 55 crowd
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  • SamByrdSamByrd Posts: 3,131 ✭✭✭✭
    superb in every way in my view. I think its in an xf45 holder as well. simply an outstanding coin.image

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