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1898 Morgan type question

I'd like some opinions on an 1898 Morgan I've had for some time. It was bought above melt a while back at a local show. It has extremely mirrored fields, and the devices appear to originally have minimal to moderate frosting. When I say mirrored, I don't mean clean full-lluster, cart-wheel fields, I mean finely pollished to a flat mirror finish that I've never witnessed on a Morgan before.

Beyond that, the coin looks like any other Morgan that spent time rubbing around in a mint bag with others for 60 years, maybe a 62 or so grade. Plenty of small dings and minor rub on the high points and small coin scrapes in the fields. No hairlines what so ever. I can EASILY get 4" or more of sharp mirror reflection out of the fields.

I've heard 1898's can have some fairly refelctive fields at times. Unfortunately, I can't capture the mirror factor and reflectivity in a good picture. Here's some pictures of the date, with what appears to be a doubled second 8. There are zero die abrasion lines on the fields, however, I can find them on various locations of the devices.

Is this a regular run of the mill 1898? I can get other close up images if need be. I have a hard time believing it would be some rogue proof, but I've never seen anything like it.

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  • Hi, that does look like a double second 8 ,this should be a VAM coin ,i would sure investigate it more-image
  • coinguy1coinguy1 Posts: 13,484 ✭✭✭
    Even if you can't capture the reflectivity in images, a full shot of each side might be helpful.
  • AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 24,941 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I only see the date, where is the rest of the coin? Can't answer your question
    without being able to see the dollar.

    bobimage
    Registry: CC lowballs (boblindstrom), bobinvegas1989@yahoo.com
  • bronze6827bronze6827 Posts: 526 ✭✭✭
    Here's the overall. Like I statetd earlier, I can not remotely capture the mirror fields in any picture I attempt to take with what I have available. I initially presumed it to just be a beat-up deep-mirror coin. I had checked out all the VAM stuff, but I couldn't find one with doubling that matched this 8, and I have no idea on diagnostics for a proof of this year besides the die scratch through the eye, which this one does not have.

    I don't think these pictures will be of any help, I'm afraid. The coin does have a layer of haze over the whole thing.

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  • AMRCAMRC Posts: 4,280 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The haze is not doing the coin any justice. Overall the 98's come nice. This looks like no exception. Well struck.
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  • coinguy1coinguy1 Posts: 13,484 ✭✭✭
    The coin looks like a business strike and not a Proof, to me.
  • bronze6827bronze6827 Posts: 526 ✭✭✭
    Any opinions on the doubled 8? I see there are a few different versions, but I haven't seen this one anywhere.
  • AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 24,941 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Looks like the typical 1898 dollar. Not a proof dollar.

    Nice coinimage

    bob
    Registry: CC lowballs (boblindstrom), bobinvegas1989@yahoo.com
  • WindycityWindycity Posts: 3,549 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Likely a VAM4... common variety. Check VAMWorld.com for more information.
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  • << <i>The coin looks like a business strike and not a Proof, to me. >>

    Mark, I dont think he meant the coin might be a proof rather it may be PL or even DMPL. Having said that it does not look even PL though its hard to tell from the pics.
  • DorkGirlDorkGirl Posts: 9,994 ✭✭✭
    The 8 looks like mechanical doubling to me, which is cool, cause you hardly ever see that on a Morgan.image
    Becky
  • bronze6827bronze6827 Posts: 526 ✭✭✭
    I was sort of thinking it might be mechanical doubling as well initially, but wasn't sure as none of the surrounding devices had any signs. It is somewhat shelf-like in nature. It doens't really matter to much to me, it was just a brief curiosity and change of pace from my normal.

    I'm simply going to leave it as a deep-mirror coin; the pictures I provided basically make it look like a plain-jane coin. I just can't get a good shot to reveal the reflectivity. It's really just a low-grade uncirculated coin and will probably stay in a 2x2 and turn into a hand-me-down in 30 years. I tried photographing it again to capture the mirror fields, but to no avail.

    Thanks for all comments.

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