Just learned the equation for calculating "handling"
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a+bx2=handling
where a=postage and b=mailing supplies (ie envelope)
What a great system to make sure you stick it to your buyers....last two items I received did this. One was $2.50 postage and supplies and I was charged $5. The other was $5.00 in a+b and I was charged $10.
Yes, I did know the rate when I bought the items but just figured that a trackable higher postal service would be used. But one should never assume. In both cases no tracking and they just used loose stamps.
mathew
where a=postage and b=mailing supplies (ie envelope)
What a great system to make sure you stick it to your buyers....last two items I received did this. One was $2.50 postage and supplies and I was charged $5. The other was $5.00 in a+b and I was charged $10.
Yes, I did know the rate when I bought the items but just figured that a trackable higher postal service would be used. But one should never assume. In both cases no tracking and they just used loose stamps.
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<< <i> and they just used loose stamps.
mathew >>
Morning,
What exactly is meant by this? My US Contract Post Office, I use every day, does not have the capability of printing postage, every thing that they accept ends up with stamps on it.
Thanks
Neil
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<< <i> and they just used loose stamps.
mathew >>
Morning,
What exactly is meant by this? My US Contract Post Office, I use every day, does not have the capability of printing postage, every thing that they accept ends up with stamps on it.
Thanks
Neil >>
It means an irrational, illogical, irrelevant complaint is being made on these boards. That hasn't happened lately.
I love receiving stuff with stamps on it, because if they're not properly canceled, I can peel them off and reuse them!
Wow. Really?
I can honestly say I have bought thousands of items via ebay/sportlots/etc. over the past 10 years and not ONCE, literally NEVER have I looked and compared what the person charged with what it cost. As long as I get my item in the condition advertised, they could air drop it from a carrier pigeon.
<< <i>and they just used loose stamps >>
This is a country wide PO thing now. Each office can only have a cetain $$ value of stamps on hand now. This is being done to cut inventory levels country wide. My Postmaster said that they were told to use ALL stamps that they couldn't easily sell in place of the printed stickers. Priority Mail is the best way to get rid of them. With a minimum value of $5 for Priority you can get rid of 6 78 cent stamps and make up the rest with printed postage. She was getting rid of Chanukah and Kwanzaa stamps about a week ago. Pretty soon she'll be getting rid of 30 cent stamps by the dozen on each PM package.
They can't send back anything that isn't damaged, so they have to use just about everything.
<< <i>Just to add so that the OP does not think I was being sarcastic, the shipper was taking all the risk and is "self insuring" the shipment. Had it not made it to the buyer or had it been damaged all liability would have been on the shipper. The buyer was just as safe as he would have been had the package had DC & USPS insurance labels on it. >>
If your card arrived safely in a PWE, do you feel that you would have no grounds for a complaint?
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<< <i>a+bx2=handling
where a=postage and b=mailing supplies (ie envelope)
What a great system to make sure you stick it to your buyers....last two items I received did this. One was $2.50 postage and supplies and I was charged $5. The other was $5.00 in a+b and I was charged $10.
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That B*stard!
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<< <i>Just to add so that the OP does not think I was being sarcastic, the shipper was taking all the risk and is "self insuring" the shipment. Had it not made it to the buyer or had it been damaged all liability would have been on the shipper. The buyer was just as safe as he would have been had the package had DC & USPS insurance labels on it. >>
If your card arrived safely in a PWE, do you feel that you would have no grounds for a complaint? >>
Arrived safely? I don't care how it is delivered.
If it came in a PWE and was damaged AND the seller tried to pull the "not my problem" it would be a different story. But anything bought on eBay is "safe" because of the PP protection.
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<< <i>Just to add so that the OP does not think I was being sarcastic, the shipper was taking all the risk and is "self insuring" the shipment. Had it not made it to the buyer or had it been damaged all liability would have been on the shipper. The buyer was just as safe as he would have been had the package had DC & USPS insurance labels on it. >>
If your card arrived safely in a PWE, do you feel that you would have no grounds for a complaint? >>
I agree with Digi. The amount we as buyers pay for shipping should result in a decent job in making sure the item arrives safely. If it's free shipping for a $20 card, that doesn't mean the seller should send it in a PWE. Poop happens, and this "well it arrived safely, so what's the problem?" line doesn't fly with me.
I'm OK if someone charges a buck to ship a card in a pwe.
I'm NOT OK if someone charges $3-5 for the same service but I leave it alone. Not worth freaking out on the seller for this when I can ding a single star for shipping rates.
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As a seller I use paypal postage to hide the shipping cost on the label. That's information I don't want the buyer to know. Some people will be upset if you charge a nickel over shipping (seriously).
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Mathew, I know you're in Canada. I'm not sure if your orders are from the US but I will say that our system down here sucks when it comes to shipping items up there.
We have to fill out the customs form (not too bad if you bring a stack home and fill out in advance).
Then we have to drive to the post office (different than US where we can hand the package to our mail person or put it in the mailbox).
Then, depending on our post office, we may have to wait a long time in line to pay for the postage. Two of the three post offices in my area keep me in line for 20-30 minutes (seriously, every time) and the third (which is much faster w/o a line) is a 40 minute round trip from home. Either route I take I'm waiting a half an hour to send that package. Also, every package sent to Canada shows exactly how much postage was paid -- so when I eventually had to raise my rates, I began getting stars dinged.
And then, after the customs form, driving to the post office, waiting in line, I have to drive home and PRAY that the package arrives to the buyer because tracking is unaffordable and out of the question at $30.
<< <i>Mathew, I know you're in Canada. I'm not sure if your orders are from the US but I will say that our system down here sucks when it comes to shipping items up there.
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Both of these orders are from Canadian sellers. I feel the pain of people selling from the US to Canada as I go through the same thing when I sell from Canada to the US.
As a work around, I actually have all of my buys from the US sent to a fellow board member. They save them up for me and then send me out a large package. I find that it saves me a lot of money and headaches.
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Charging top S+H rates and using a PWE or other inferior
packaging is disrespectful to the buyer.
"Protection" is NOT JUST a money factor that is assured by
PayPal. Protection also includes caring about whether or not
the buyer's item - which the buyer cares about - arrives safely.
The buyer cared enough about the item to prepay and wait
for it; the seller should take care to get the item delivered
intact.
Substandard packaging creates a "negative" experience, no
matter how much S+H is charged. Safe delivery by luck is
not a positive thing.
<< <i>a+bx2=handling
where a=postage and b=mailing supplies (ie envelope)
What a great system to make sure you stick it to your buyers....last two items I received did this. One was $2.50 postage and supplies and I was charged $5. The other was $5.00 in a+b and I was charged $10.
Yes, I did know the rate when I bought the items but just figured that a trackable higher postal service would be used. But one should never assume. In both cases no tracking and they just used loose stamps.
mathew >>
(A+B) x 2
Or 2(A+B)
The formula you stated results in B being doubled first then A added to it rather than doubling their sum.
Tabe, former math teacher
<< <i>I can peel them off and reuse them! >>
Not a good idea.............
Yeah they have a regulation about that too.
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<< <i>a+bx2=handling
where a=postage and b=mailing supplies (ie envelope)
What a great system to make sure you stick it to your buyers....last two items I received did this. One was $2.50 postage and supplies and I was charged $5. The other was $5.00 in a+b and I was charged $10.
Yes, I did know the rate when I bought the items but just figured that a trackable higher postal service would be used. But one should never assume. In both cases no tracking and they just used loose stamps.
mathew >>
(A+B) x 2
Or 2(A+B)
The formula you stated results in B being doubled first then A added to it rather than doubling their sum.
Tabe, former math teacher >>
Actually, in the OP's example, handling = a+b. Shipping supplies and postage also = a+b. Total = 2 (a+b).
Or, maybe handling is 2 (a+b), which is what the OP paid, but he got free shipping.
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<< <i>I can peel them off and reuse them! >>
Not a good idea.............
Yeah they have a regulation about that too. >>
How will they even know? And what can they do to me? Throw me in jail for reusing a 17 cent stamp?
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<< <i>I can peel them off and reuse them! >>
Not a good idea.............
Yeah they have a regulation about that too. >>
How will they even know? And what can they do to me? Throw me in jail for reusing a 17 cent stamp? >>
I don't think it'd be jail.
I mean, I understand the lure of saving upwards of $8 per year is extremely alluring, but you might want to spend your time and effort on something more meaningful.
<< <i>Can we please focus on what's really important here: there are guys out there that take time to see if stamps have been postmarked and then peel them off in an effort to scam the post office out of 44 cents. The best part about it is they not only deem this practice reasonable, but they actually go around bragging about it like it's something to be proud of.
I mean, I understand the lure of saving upwards of $8 per year is extremely alluring, but you might want to spend your time and effort on something more meaningful. >>
You hit the head right on the nail!!!!!!
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<< <i>Can we please focus on what's really important here: there are guys out there that take time to see if stamps have been postmarked and then peel them off in an effort to scam the post office out of 44 cents. The best part about it is they not only deem this practice reasonable, but they actually go around bragging about it like it's something to be proud of.
I mean, I understand the lure of saving upwards of $8 per year is extremely alluring, but you might want to spend your time and effort on something more meaningful. >>
Please get it correct. He was trying to scam the PO on 17 cent stamps.
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<< <i>Charging top S+H rates and using a PWE or other inferior
packaging is disrespectful to the buyer.
"Protection" is NOT JUST a money factor that is assured by
PayPal. Protection also includes caring about whether or not
the buyer's item - which the buyer cares about - arrives safely.
The buyer cared enough about the item to prepay and wait
for it; the seller should take care to get the item delivered
intact.
Substandard packaging creates a "negative" experience, no
matter how much S+H is charged. Safe delivery by luck is
not a positive thing. >>
Well said! I mail everything in a padded envelope and I insure everything. Delivery confirmation is not a tracking device, it only tells you if it gets there, so I don't use it. You can track with insurance.I charge $4 and end up paying roughly $3.50. Both myself and the buyer are protected against loss or damage. The seller can see what I paid is fair, yet I still get hit with less than 5 stars on occasion. As a buyer, if I'm paying $5 for postage, I expect $5 worth of service, not a 44 cent stamp on a standard white envelope. Is that asking too much?
http://www.usps.com/cpim/ftp/posters/pos5.pdf
<< <i>As long as I get my item in the condition advertised, they could air drop it from a carrier pigeon. >>
I would actually pay extra to see that.