Lawmaker Proposes Paying Taxes only with pre 65 silver or gold coins

Frankcoins · February 2, 2011 6:01AM

Georgia state Rep. Bobby Franklin (Tea Party Republican) has introduced the “Constitutional Tender Act,” which would require all transactions with the state of Georgia — including the payment of taxes — to be paid with U.S. minted gold or silver coins unless the state agrees to grant a special waiver for each transaction:

Pre-1965 silver coins, silver eagles, and gold eagles shall be the exclusive medium which the state shall use to make any payments whatsoever to any person or entity, whether private or governmental. Such coins shall be the exclusive medium which the state shall accept from any person or entity as payment of any obligation to the state including, without limitation, the payment of taxes; provided, however, that such coins and other forms of currency may be used in all other transactions within the state upon mutual consent of the parties of any such transaction.

http://thinkprogress.org/2010/12/29/georgia-gold/

goingbroke · February 2, 2011 6:13AM

I guess that would let me out! all my gold and silver coins are from 2002-2011.

derryb · February 2, 2011 7:10AM

they better get a bunch of these:

Can't send all that metal with a check or the computer!

Rooster1 · February 2, 2011 7:17AM

I really don't think that would work. For instance a dollar in silver coin is actually worth 20.00.

derryb · February 2, 2011 7:31AM

How does someone that smart get to be a Representative.

57loaded · February 2, 2011 7:33AM

i know of gold eagles and double eagles, but pre 65 "silver eagles"...my mind just falls to ASE's like 1986.

Frankcoins · February 7, 2011 3:35AM

<< How does someone that smart get to be a Representative.

>>

Same lawmaker wants to eliminate drivers licenses as a violation of a God-given right.
But look at how many people agree with him in the comments. Scary.

Link

derryb · February 7, 2011 5:10AM

<< 

<< How does someone that smart get to be a Representative.

>>

Same lawmaker wants to eliminate drivers licenses as a violation of a God-given right.
But look at how many people agree with him in the comments. Scary.

Link >>

Georgia - next thing you know a peanut farmer will want to be president!

percyb · February 7, 2011 7:08AM

<< Georgia state Rep. Bobby Franklin (Tea Party Republican) has introduced the “Constitutional Tender Act,” which would require all transactions with the state of Georgia — including the payment of taxes — to be paid with U.S. minted gold or silver coins unless the state agrees to grant a special waiver for each transaction:

http://thinkprogress.org/2010/12/29/georgia-gold/ >>

Looks like your source has the information wrong. Are you talking about House Bill 1405? No such claims are made in that bill.

halfhunter · February 7, 2011 7:20AM

<< How does someone that smart get to be a Representative.

>>

I know . . .

He should be President ! ! !

HH

Konahead · February 7, 2011 8:17AM

<< I really don't think that would work. For instance a dollar in silver coin is actually worth 20.00. >>

That would be $29 today, and changes all the time. How would that work, they need to lock into some spot price. Can you imagine mailing in $5,000 in silver to pay your taxes!

DuCrozat · February 7, 2011 1:32PM

<< 

<< How does someone that smart get to be a Representative.

>>

I know . . .

He should be President ! ! !

HH >>

Yeah, cause some day some president is gonna get the idea to confiscate gold from American citizens..oh, wait...

Wolf359 · February 7, 2011 3:00PM

<< 

<< How does someone that smart get to be a Representative.

>>

Same lawmaker wants to eliminate drivers licenses as a violation of a God-given right.
But look at how many people agree with him in the comments. Scary.

Link >>

What's scary about it? Did you ever need a license to ride your own horse in the 1770's? Or ever? Of course not.

It's moot though. Technology appears to be on the verge of cars that will be driverless, run by computer. No more endless traffic laws, 99% reduction in deaths/injuries, or safety issues. Wiki article

Frankcoins · February 7, 2011 3:05PM

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<< Georgia state Rep. Bobby Franklin (Tea Party Republican) has introduced the “Constitutional Tender Act,” which would require all transactions with the state of Georgia — including the payment of taxes — to be paid with U.S. minted gold or silver coins unless the state agrees to grant a special waiver for each transaction:

http://thinkprogress.org/2010/12/29/georgia-gold/ >>

Looks like your source has the information wrong. Are you talking about House Bill 1405? No such claims are made in that bill. >>

HB3.

Stew · February 7, 2011 8:13PM

Just a couple of reasons for seemingly outrageous legislative Bills:

1. To have a starting point for negotiations on a subject Bill. A politician will go to an extreme one direction
or another knowing the Bill will not pass in the initially presented form. Then negotiations take place
and it possibly passes watered down with certain components that the politician who wrote the Bill
wanted in the first place.

2. To simply raise awareness and begin discussions of an issue for possible future legislation
The fiat money and it's inherent problems are finally starting to be understood by the general
population which in turn is reaching the ears of politicians.
It is only recently that their constituents have began to raise the issue.
And believe it or not, there are some politicians in Washington that are working for the good
of the people that elected them, Both Democratic and Republican.
The problem being they are more of a minority than either political party.

Just My 2 Cents

percyb · February 7, 2011 10:18PM

<< Georgia state Rep. Bobby Franklin (Tea Party Republican) has introduced the “Constitutional Tender Act,” which would require all transactions with the state of Georgia — including the payment of taxes — to be paid with U.S. minted gold or silver coins unless the state agrees to grant a special waiver for each transaction:

Pre-1965 silver coins, silver eagles, and gold eagles shall be the exclusive medium which the state shall use to make any payments whatsoever to any person or entity, whether private or governmental. Such coins shall be the exclusive medium which the state shall accept from any person or entity as payment of any obligation to the state including, without limitation, the payment of taxes; provided, however, that such coins and other forms of currency may be used in all other transactions within the state upon mutual consent of the parties of any such transaction.

http://thinkprogress.org/2010/12/29/georgia-gold/ >>

I hate to burst your balloon, but you should read the bill. Your source has corrupted what's stated in the bill with the direct intention of maligning Bobby Franklin. You call that "progress"? I call it deceit.

DuCrozat · February 8, 2011 12:38PM

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<< Georgia state Rep. Bobby Franklin (Tea Party Republican) has introduced the “Constitutional Tender Act,” which would require all transactions with the state of Georgia — including the payment of taxes — to be paid with U.S. minted gold or silver coins unless the state agrees to grant a special waiver for each transaction:

Pre-1965 silver coins, silver eagles, and gold eagles shall be the exclusive medium which the state shall use to make any payments whatsoever to any person or entity, whether private or governmental. Such coins shall be the exclusive medium which the state shall accept from any person or entity as payment of any obligation to the state including, without limitation, the payment of taxes; provided, however, that such coins and other forms of currency may be used in all other transactions within the state upon mutual consent of the parties of any such transaction.

http://thinkprogress.org/2010/12/29/georgia-gold/ >>

I hate to burst your balloon, but you should read the bill. Your source has corrupted what's stated in the bill with the direct intention of maligning Bobby Franklin. You call that "progress"? I call it deceit. >>

Also appropriate in "progressively" worse.

Frankcoins · February 10, 2011 8:58AM

<< Just a couple of reasons for seemingly outrageous legislative Bills:

1. To have a starting point for negotiations on a subject Bill. A politician will go to an extreme one direction
or another knowing the Bill will not pass in the initially presented form. Then negotiations take place
and it possibly passes watered down with certain components that the politician who wrote the Bill
wanted in the first place.

2. To simply raise awareness and begin discussions of an issue for possible future legislation
The fiat money and it's inherent problems are finally starting to be understood by the general
population which in turn is reaching the ears of politicians.
It is only recently that their constituents have began to raise the issue.
And believe it or not, there are some politicians in Washington that are working for the good
of the people that elected them, Both Democratic and Republican.
The problem being they are more of a minority than either political party.

Just My 2 Cents >>

I thought Republicans promised to focus on jobs jobs jobs.

Frankcoins · February 10, 2011 9:07AM

<< 

<< Georgia state Rep. Bobby Franklin (Tea Party Republican) has introduced the “Constitutional Tender Act,” which would require all transactions with the state of Georgia — including the payment of taxes — to be paid with U.S. minted gold or silver coins unless the state agrees to grant a special waiver for each transaction:

Pre-1965 silver coins, silver eagles, and gold eagles shall be the exclusive medium which the state shall use to make any payments whatsoever to any person or entity, whether private or governmental. Such coins shall be the exclusive medium which the state shall accept from any person or entity as payment of any obligation to the state including, without limitation, the payment of taxes; provided, however, that such coins and other forms of currency may be used in all other transactions within the state upon mutual consent of the parties of any such transaction.

http://thinkprogress.org/2010/12/29/georgia-gold/ >>

I hate to burst your balloon, but you should read the bill. Your source has corrupted what's stated in the bill with the direct intention of maligning Bobby Franklin. You call that "progress"? I call it deceit. >>

Please point out what is misrepresented in the Think Progress article. The original bill is Here

Stew · February 10, 2011 9:57AM

Frank,

I truly appreciate you point of view on a variety of the discussions here.
You have a good amount of knowledge where Washington is concerned

Part of the point I was trying to make is except for a very few politicians
in Washington today the only place that there is a difference between
Democrat and Republican in in front of a Camera or in the Press
With the message that they are trying to use in reaching the different population
segments to get elected or re-elected.
After the election cycle is past there is very close to zero difference
in the way work gets done in either party.

The easiest way to control a population is to separate them into two camps
and have them argue amongst themselves and make issues that are
of little real importance into huge issues that the population will
argue about. While the legislators pass very quietly legislation
that actually changes the Country without the population
even knowing it has happened most of the time.
And when they do find out it is too late and the
media machine is put into play to spin it to make
people believe it is actually a good thing.

percyb · February 11, 2011 1:50AM

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<< 

<< Georgia state Rep. Bobby Franklin (Tea Party Republican) has introduced the “Constitutional Tender Act,” which would require all transactions with the state of Georgia — including the payment of taxes — to be paid with U.S. minted gold or silver coins unless the state agrees to grant a special waiver for each transaction:

Pre-1965 silver coins, silver eagles, and gold eagles shall be the exclusive medium which the state shall use to make any payments whatsoever to any person or entity, whether private or governmental. Such coins shall be the exclusive medium which the state shall accept from any person or entity as payment of any obligation to the state including, without limitation, the payment of taxes; provided, however, that such coins and other forms of currency may be used in all other transactions within the state upon mutual consent of the parties of any such transaction.

http://thinkprogress.org/2010/12/29/georgia-gold/ >>

I hate to burst your balloon, but you should read the bill. Your source has corrupted what's stated in the bill with the direct intention of maligning Bobby Franklin. You call that "progress"? I call it deceit. >>

Please point out what is misrepresented in the Think Progress article. The original bill is Here >>

Thinkprogress can't think clearly, to be sure.

Lawmaker Proposes Paying Taxes only with pre 65 silver or gold coins

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