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Is the 1792 Half Disme Properly Called a Pattern or Not?

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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,111 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    1984 Olympic commem silver dollar. What did I win?

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    Hey, that was pretty good!
  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,115 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    WRONG!
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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,111 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    WRONG! >>



    I meant 1983. It was a typo or mechanical error.image



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  • goldengolden Posts: 9,584 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That is one super 1792 Half Disme that Cardinal has.I remember very well Jimmy Hayes showing me his Half Disme ( Stack's 10-22-1985 lot 3 at a low $57,750 ) at the 1973 BRNA show at Birmingham. I prefer that one over all that I have seen during the last several decades.
  • goldengolden Posts: 9,584 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I stand corrected. The Jimmy Hayes coin in Stack's 1985 was not the same coin that I saw in 1973. Mr. Hayes had upgraded ( that is hard to imagine ) in 1980 when he bought the Auction 1980 coin for $ 90,000.
  • 7Jaguars7Jaguars Posts: 7,444 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Trial runs, patterns, fine lines...I guess we like to pigeonhole things by our nature as collectors, but I still feel that this coin is a trial and therefore a pattern. BTW nice coins there Cardinal...

    Don' t ask a Brit to grade that half disme as it will likely come back "GEF" or good extra fine.
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  • cardinalcardinal Posts: 2,005 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Trial runs, patterns, fine lines...I guess we like to pigeonhole things by our nature as collectors, but I still feel that this coin is a trial and therefore a pattern. BTW nice coins there Cardinal...

    Don' t ask a Brit to grade that half disme as it will likely come back "GEF" or good extra fine. >>



    I don't think Brits are that harsh. I would fully expect an astute Brit to grade it "FDC" for fleur de coin!
  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,115 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Trial runs, patterns, fine lines...I guess we like to pigeonhole things by our nature as collectors, but I still feel that this coin is a trial and therefore a pattern. BTW nice coins there Cardinal...

    Don' t ask a Brit to grade that half disme as it will likely come back "GEF" or good extra fine. >>



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  • ColonelJessupColonelJessup Posts: 6,442 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>.... The President of the United States declared that “the want of small coins in circulation” called for the production and distribution of these coins. >>



    What he says.....
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    Somehow I recall the Mint could not open officially under government aegis until the Chief Coiner overcame some problems posting a bond for the weight and fineness of his production. The very first midnight minting session, albeit in broad daylight, and with the President supplying the silver and cheering them on....
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