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Autos4AlexAutos4Alex Posts: 442 ✭✭✭
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Well I've a few hundred graded cards on ebay and I think I finally bought some that appear to have had their cases tampered with. Before I complain I wanted to get the opinion of the board. Both cards show the same damage to one corner of the case where it looks like it may have been opened then 3 'frosted' areas on both the left and right of the cases. It's most visible from the back. Thoughts?

Here's some scans, let me know if it would help to see any more perspectives:

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  • hhmag70hhmag70 Posts: 2,107
    The cards appear to match the grade just fine.
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    SGC slabs are pretty beefy IIRC.

    Steve
    Good for you.
  • DialjDialj Posts: 1,636 ✭✭
    I can't think of a reason the case would be cracked at that location, but the cards look like the meet the grade given. I guess it would be possible the another owner maybe had a thought about cracking them out and resubmitting.
    "A full mind is an empty bat." Ty Cobb

    Currently collecting 1934 Butterfinger, 1969 Nabisco, 1991 Topps Desert Shield (in PSA 9 or 10), and 1990 Donruss Learning Series (in PSA 10).
  • Sean1125Sean1125 Posts: 3,479
    They didn't sand the frost out enough, how dare them!
  • Autos4AlexAutos4Alex Posts: 442 ✭✭✭
    The cards don't look bad. The centering actually looks fantastic for the grades to me.

    The 4: There's a surface crease in the lower left, it's hard to see from scans but not as bad in person. The back edges look a little rough and there's minor corner wear. Other than the light crease it looks above average for a 4 to me. Is it ok for a 4 to have a crease?

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    The 6: I'm not all that familiar with 6's of this vintage. It was a lot and I wanted the 4 and figured I'd just sell the 6 off. The side is a little rough cut but the corners are reasonably sharp. The back shows some wear, but not too bad. Is this in line with the expectation of a 6? Here's the back and some example corners:

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    Any worry that the cards could be counterfeit or something? A seemingly damaged case just raises some questions. Hopefully I was worrying about nothing!

  • CubbyCubby Posts: 2,096 ✭
    Ahhh, the dreaded surface crease. I was going to say that's the best looking 4 I've seen.
    "Is it ok for a 4 to have a crease?" Evidently, SGC thinks so. Also the 6 definetely looks
    like a 6 to me.


    BTW: Cubby=Cub Fan
  • bobbyw8469bobbyw8469 Posts: 7,139 ✭✭✭
    Those spots that you call "frosting" are normal on an SGC case. I would only worry if it was totally all the way up and down a side....

    PS - what you are calling a surface crease looks more like a print line. Normal on the 1954 Topps. The Hank Aaron rookie card has it too on certain ones....
  • BlacklabelsocietyBlacklabelsociety Posts: 1,033
    They look ok to me. Both sgc and psa usually have some frost on cases.
  • ReljacReljac Posts: 758


    << <i>Ahhh, the dreaded surface crease. I was going to say that's the best looking 4 I've seen.
    "Is it ok for a 4 to have a crease?" Evidently, SGC thinks so. Also the 6 definetely looks
    like a 6 to me. >>



    PSA thinks so as well. I have 1952 Bowman Small Sammy Baugh PSA 4 that has a surface crease on the front, not visible on the back. like this Al Kaline, it runs through an insignificant portion of the card... and overall the card looks better than the grade thanks to the crease being a large reason for a lower grade.

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    This picture doesn't do my card enough justice as the corners are sharp. I'll try to get a better scan up. The surface crease is between the football and the helmet, with a slight bit going over the football.
  • hammeredhammered Posts: 2,671 ✭✭✭
    Surface creases are fine for 4s. If the crease went all the way through the card, it would drop to a 2 or a 1.
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