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Weight of Silver Proof set

ElyJ83ElyJ83 Posts: 73
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I am trying to determine the authenticity of a 1994 Mint Silver Proof Set. I figured if I weighed the plastic holder with the coins inside (penny, nickel, dime, quarter, and half) I could determine that they are indeed silver. Is their anyway to determine if someone opened the case up before and popped the coins out? This purchase did not come with the COA or original box (I purchased for $20) I figured weighing would be the best option - am I wrong to think this? Anyone have any thoughts?


Much appreciated,


Jason

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    keepdachangekeepdachange Posts: 1,374
    regardless of weight the penny and nickel will not be silver image Just take them out and look at the edge
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    ElyJ83ElyJ83 Posts: 73
    I understand the penny and nickel are not silver... I imagine It would be easier to just pop them out and weigh the dime, quarter, and half dollar. Happen to know a site that list the exact weight on each in silver? Thanks!
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    keepdachangekeepdachange Posts: 1,374
    try here
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    keepdachangekeepdachange Posts: 1,374
    Qtr. 6.25 grams
    Dime 2.5 grams
    Half 12.5 grams
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    tightbudgettightbudget Posts: 7,299 ✭✭✭
    An alternative might be to check the color of the coins. The silver proofs are whiter in color than the clad proofs.
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    coinman420coinman420 Posts: 4,666 ✭
    do you own any other silver proof coins? if you do look at them and compare the color of the metal with the set in question. clad proofs have a yellowish color and silver has a more white look to it. if this does not help just pop the case open and take one coin out and look at the edge. clad will show copper on the edge.

    edit to add: tightbudget beat me to it. image
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    OnTheHuntOnTheHunt Posts: 200 ✭✭✭
    Place a thin napkin over the case, silver shows through bright white while clad is much darker.

    Steve
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    Batman23Batman23 Posts: 4,999 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I don't have much for proof sets anymore but I do have an 88 clad and two 95 silvers. Each contain the same number of coins. The weight of the inserts may be different over these 7 years.

    Weights without box and COA, just the plastic shell and coins.

    1988 clad weighed 79.6 grams.
    1995 silver one weighed 80.0 and the other weighed 80.6 grams.

    I do not like the close spread but that is what they were. I have a feeling that the 88 insert is heavier that the 95 insert.

    Maybe someone with a 95 era clad proof set could get a better weight.
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    CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 31,774 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Look at the edges of the coins. The clad ones have the copper stripe. The silver ones do not.

    If they are all the same color, you might only have to check one.

    TD
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    19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,487 ✭✭✭✭
    I could be wrong but I believe that the 1994 Proof Sets were literally "sealed" at the packaging facility and any attempt to open them would result in damaged plastic or at least a noticeable scar on the edges.

    If the package has an original seal, I don't think you have anything to worry about.
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    CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 31,774 ✭✭✭✭✭
    What color is the cut-out holder within the plastic?
    Who's got one each regular and silver set that can report on the color of the inserts in them?
    TD
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    Batman23Batman23 Posts: 4,999 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>What color is the cut-out holder within the plastic?
    Who's got one each regular and silver set that can report on the color of the inserts in them?
    TD >>



    Silver is Black. Clad should be Green.
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    ElyJ83ElyJ83 Posts: 73


    << <i>

    << <i>What color is the cut-out holder within the plastic?
    Who's got one each regular and silver set that can report on the color of the inserts in them?
    TD >>



    Silver is Black. Clad should be Green. >>




    When I get home from work today I will try and compare to other silver sets, and if no decision I will open them up and check the sides. The inside paper is black.

    On the reverse side of the black paper is an circular crease that goes around each coin; is this signs of them being popped out? You guys are great I appreciate all the information given.




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    Steve27Steve27 Posts: 13,274 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Place a thin napkin over the case, silver shows through bright white while clad is much darker.

    Steve >>



    I've seen people do this with tissue paper; it supposedly works.
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    RRich2004RRich2004 Posts: 252


    << <i>I am trying to determine the authenticity of a 1994 Mint Silver Proof Set. I figured if I weighed the plastic holder with the coins inside (penny, nickel, dime, quarter, and half) I could determine that they are indeed silver. Is their anyway to determine if someone opened the case up before and popped the coins out? This purchase did not come with the COA or original box (I purchased for $20) I figured weighing would be the best option - am I wrong to think this? Anyone have any thoughts?


    Much appreciated,


    Jason >>



    The half dollar will have a total weight of 11.50 grams, with net silver eight of .14792 oz.; quarter total weight 5.75 grams with net silver .0739 oz.; dimes total weight 2.27 grams with net silver .07234 oz.
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    ElyJ83ElyJ83 Posts: 73


    << <i>

    << <i>Place a thin napkin over the case, silver shows through bright white while clad is much darker.

    Steve >>



    I've seen people do this with tissue paper; it supposedly works. >>




    I did this tonight with some white tissue paper I had around the house; to my surprise the nickel had a greyish tint and the half, quarter, and dime were a bright white. I believe my proof set is silver and not clad... woot woot..


    Thanks for the info guys
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    AMRCAMRC Posts: 4,266 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Who's faking 1994 Silver Proof sets?
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