Anyone here ever cherrypick an 1861-S Paquet $20?

GoldenEyeNumismatics

It seems plausible enough to happen... anyone here ever do it or hear of it being done?

ambro51

Breen also mentions gold dollars with Paquet style letters.

Halfhunter06

If that does happen, let me know who the dealer is. lol

robkool

I think your odds in winning the mega-millions jackpot is better than than cherrypicking a 61 s paquet $20 Lib...

MrEureka

Does cherrypicking a Philly Paquet count?

RichieURich

<< <i>Does cherrypicking a Philly Paquet count? >>



Absolutely. Tell us about it, Andy!

MrEureka

Breen also mentions gold dollars with Paquet style letters.

Those are patterns.

Here's the gold piece, which is unique, unquestionably real, and in the ANS collection. (It also exists in copper, and gilt copper.)



And there also exist uniface splashers from unfinished dies:



And here's the gilt copper 1859, which some attribute to Paquet, but it is more likely a privately struck concoction of some sort.

AMRC

I guess anything is possible.

RYK

That would be a helluva score!

MrEureka

Info on the Philly Paquet $20 at uspatterns.com.

savoyspecial

in the mid 1940's Fred Boyd had a Paquet reverse gold double eagle in a 2x2 marked "Double Eagle, counterfeit?"

of course it was far from being a counterfeit; Boyd thought the 'odd reverse' meant that it was not a genuine coin.......little did he know what he was sitting on! i think Kosoff was the dealer who finally attributed it as a genuine coin and a Paquet reverse no less

also, he paid $50 for it at the time

Julian

I had a man come into my store with a coin that his grandmother left him. It was in one of the gift boxes from the early 20th century for gold coins. He just wanted to know the value.

It was an S mint Paquet.

Hopefully, I will get to handle it some day.

GoldenEyeNumismatics

<< <i>I guess anything is possible. >>



With almost 140 certified between the two services, accounting for resubmissions, there's probably 75+ that are known. With a number like that, it seems entirely plausible that there are some scudzy examples sitting in a 2x2 in some uninformed dealer's case.

RichieURich

I once owned an 1861-S Paquet double eagle. Cool coin, kinda wish I still had it.

tjc2120

<< <i>Paquet $20 >>



Please explain.

savoyspecial

jc2120 here you go:


CoinFacts Link showing the different style of lettering (reverse)


it is rare as a San Fran release in 1861 and exceedingly rare as a Philadelphia of the same year (only 2 Phillys known last i was aware)

ColonelJessup

Yes, but when I did, in 1863, they were not bringing any premium. Excuse me, as a dealer I am encouraged to re-frame "no premium" as "undervalued".

Aegis3

<< <i>And here's the gilt copper 1859, which some attribute to Paquet, but it is more likely a privately struck concoction of some sort.

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I agree that doesn't look like Paquet's work. I've noticed that different die sinkers of that time often used different denticulation from each other. Can anyone recognize any similarities to any tokens or medals?